Week 3: Social development and implementation of the post-2015 development agenda

20 Apr - 24 Apr 2015
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This session will focus on clarifying the role of social development in achieving sustainable development, paying particular attention to how social policies can drive economic and environmental sustainability. Within the existing SDG framework, it will explore how social development community can strengthen the social pillar and dimensions of sustainable development: Goal 1 – 6 (poverty, hunger, health, education, (gender), water and sanitation) and social dimensions of goal 8 (employment and decent work), Goal 10 (inequality) and Goal (16 (peaceful and inclusive society). In addition, discussion will focus on how we can effectively address social dimensions of the economic and environmental pillars, as well as the interlinkages among three dimensions of sustainable development.

Guiding Questions

  • In which areas positive synergies (win-win situation) between social and economic, and social and environmental dimensions of sustainable development can be created? What are effective policy tools to enable this (i.e., decent work, social protection, green jobs, etc.)
  • How to manage potential conflicts or perceived trade-offs between social and economic and social and environmental dimensions of sustainable development? What are effective approaches (what needs to be done) to manage them?
  • What will be the most effective mechanism to strengthen social pillars of sustainable development? What conceptual framework can be most useful to strengthen social dimensions of sustainable development in a more coherent and integrated manner?

Summary of Comments

Thanks so much to all colleagues participating in the third week of these policy dialogues, under the tittle: Social development and implementation of the post-2015 development agenda.

Your contributions have helped to advance our understanding about the many challenges of advancing social development through the implementation of the post 2015 agenda.

As revealed by the very good contributions received so far, a global agenda for sustainable development brings to the fore the complex interactions of the various dimensions of the development process. It is difficult to think about sustainable eradication of poverty without sustainable and inclusive economic growth, or without resilient communities to economic and environmental risks. Some of you also raised the difficulties of achieving fast, sustained and inclusive economic growth without well functioning education and health systems for all or without well-functioning institutions. But the achievement of sustainable progress in the economic, social and environmental fields also requires active participation of people in decision making and strong institutions to guide transformative changes in the way economies and societies operate.

One conclusion we can probably draw from the conversation in the third week is that social inclusion and environmentally sustainable communities require well-functioning economies, active participation of people on issues of public concern and strong institutions to lead transformational change.

In the discussion, I sensed wide recognition about the opportunity that the concept of sustainable development brings to tighten the policy inter-linkages among the various dimensions of development. In everyday life societies are not divided between economic, social and environment fields; they all interact simultaneously. When we go to work, we are contributing to economic growth, but we are bounded by a social contract that defines our pay, benefits and social interactions; and in the process of producing goods and services we use (or mal use) the natural environment. Thus, the only way public policy decisions contribute to keep a good balance among these different dimensions is by taking explicit consideration of the multiple interactions that are taking place.

Policy choices will have to incorporate an explicit recognition of the impact of policy decisions on the economy, the society and the environment. Leveraging synergies across policy areas and reducing negative impacts will be a must in the implementation of the post 2015 development agenda. Strengthening national policy dialogues through the use of tools that help assess the direct and indirect impact of policy decisions will be important to facilitate active participation of the multiple actors whose actions will determine the future of sustainable development in each country context. Governments, the private sector, communities, and individual citizens will all play a role in shaping the future their societies. Their individual actions will be consistent if there is a shared vision and clear recognition of the opportunities and costs of a country specific strategy for sustainable development.

I think we all agree that we have a powerful conceptin the notion of sustainable development and the challenge now is to transform this powerful concept into a new policy reality.

In this week’s discussion there were very useful examples posted on areas where positive synergies (win-win situations) can be developed in the areas of education, technology, energy, social protection, infrastructure, green jobs, agriculture, migration, water and sanitation, the environment and more.

Initiatives such as the green jobs, energy for all and many others, provide options to enhance synergies across the three dimensions of sustainable development. The most difficult challenge, however, will be redirecting all aspects of public policy under the new framework of sustainable development. Take the example raised by the various contributions in the area of education. Very successful experiences of countries that have achieved nearly universal access to primary education and well developed institutions of higher education are nowadays confronted with the challenge of building better synergies across the whole spectrum of the educational system. Improving the quality of basic education received by all childrenand expanding access to quality secondary education is essential to improve the insertion of young people into the labor market. But the curricula of secondary education must also be adapted to build the skills required by young workers in the new economic realities of a globalized world. Similarly in the case of tertiary education; it must be adapted to respond to the need of strengthening the capacity of countries to innovate through a R&D agenda relevant to the needs of micro, small and medium enterprises, which are the largest source of employment in developing countries.

Several postings referred to the positive contributions of social protection policies, helping to achieve multiple objectives simultaneously. This is the case, for example, of conditional cash transfer programmes which increase family income thus reducing poverty and economic vulnerability at the same time as helping to improve school attendance and health. Other programmes of social protection are linked to the creation of employment with multiple impacts on reducing poverty, improving the employability of workers, increasing food production and rural infrastructure. More recent programmes highlighted this week are linking poverty reduction with environmental sustainability, as in Bolsa Verde in Brazil. New concepts are emerging, such as “eco-social-policies” which according to one of the postings aims at providing incentives to make sustainable management of environmental resources at the same time as improving the resilience of individuals and communities.

I am sure we can extend the analysis of policy of inter-linkages to many other themes: food security and agricultural development; the nexus across energy, land, water and sanitation; or the links between social protection, health, education, and labor market insertion. The challenge we have going forward is to reconsider all areas in the development process, all policies to be implemented in order to identify their inter-linkages, enhance positive synergies and reduce possible negative impacts.

Through a very short one week conversation, it is clear there is a lot to be learned from one another. Development cooperation in all its forms (South-South, North-South, Triangular) and multi-stakeholder cooperation will be essential. Strengthened mechanisms for regional and global cooperation will be most critical to sustainable development

We thank you for participating in this first conversation on these issues and look forward to continue working with you.

Some examples of effective policies

Additional global reports of relevance

What drives institutions to adopt integrated development approaches?

The poverty-environment nexus and analysis of country evidence from the Poverty-Environment Initiative

Comments (52)

Vandôme (not verified)

ACCES AU CONFORT POUR TOUT ÊTRE HUMAIN = CROISSANCE EXPONENTIELLE

GEORGES RADJOU (not verified)

Friends,

 

Allow me to put an implementation plan within the strategy of a mixte of emerging and deliberateactions, which are not separated but acting in synergies, to create the growths, AND in which social development is the locomotive (pulling force) of economic development (and the conservation or preservation of biodiversity)

 

It is based on the observation that :

 

a) In 1900, I believe our ancestors knew and could live a happily and descent life with only 100 technologies. Today,  modern societies have a knolwledge and uses of millions of technologies, but they are unable to sastisfy needs. assuming there is something going wrong, somewhere and creating a development gap. Maybe the way the resiliency is define, which is economic and not taking into account the other pillar of sustainable development. 

 

b) Sustainable development goals should address the ambiguity and variability of development with simple means that should be a common DNA (is it the Post 2015 SDGs, it is unsure in view of the number of goals and targets) with basic principles able to create the adaptations strategies that the world is claiming in order to survive in a more energy constrained resource earth planet environment. The paradigmchanges can ease the solving issues.

 

c) I think the same principles which have been used to promote economic development (for example the use of Adam Smith theory of capitalism) and the role of the markets could be used to promote social development.

Making laws and transforming organisations, so they can be more responsive to social needs rather than economic needs.

 

d) The strategies should be the same as a business strategy. Prototyping and finding ways to finance social development by taking bankers and customers to the ideas that social development is worth it and equal to economic development if not more important, because people are social, before being economic. Sustainable Develoment needs to be sustained (Ban Ki Moon)

 

e) Social development should use the same tools as business peoples and organisations. For example, social diversification, social integration, social SWOT analysis, Social marketing, social finance, social logistics...social mergers and acquisitions, social investments and social risk returns…and so on.

 

f) Also, it would be good to promote thes sustainable development to green capitalism with new processes and renewables resources and in order to re-invent the future. Future generations could have new hopes, new ambitions, new opportunities, new dreams,...and not relying on past development andtrade-offs.

 

g) Synergies can come if only, future generations are able to be self- self starters, and themselves, and look their own ways about their futures and the roads ahead, we can just give them a hand qto put the pillars, butthey will have to finish the job, with their won tools. A mistake would be to look for conservatism of ideas and implementation as if reproducing the business as usual, and cloning development mechnanism resided in a single way, which is cloning development everywhere, without using imagination and risk sharing socieities.

 

h) Today sustainable development is economically focused. Economic develoment in the 3pillars of sustainable development are always weighting more than social and environmental pillars. So, as long as development is predominantly an economic development, the resources of the planet are likely to be exhausted, and as some scientists or economists said at the speed and ratio of environmental destructions for goods and services, it not 1 earth planet that will be needed in the future, but 4 earth planets and we do not have them, to satisfy the humanity needs (called them wants now)

 

Thank you,

 

Georges Radjou

BIRD

Ashwini Sathnur • Capacity Development Expert at United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) from India
  • In which areas positive synergies (win-win situation) between social and economic, and social and environmental dimensions of sustainable development can be created? What are effective policy tools to enable this (i.e., decent work, social protection, green jobs, etc.)

Social and economic creates a win-win situation in the area of Inclusive Development. Inclusive Development creates a mechanism enabling the disabled persons at the work-place. Jobs which are ideally Green Jobs are generated. And inclusive technology could span across multiple sectors. Naming a few sectors - transportation, defence, energy and telecommunications. Climate change technologies spanning across telecommuncations, healthcare, space research, aviation,  energy etc. creates green jobs as well as increases social protection. This social protection is protection against hazardous climate. Technology innovation based on ICT, information technology, energy fuels science enables creation of decent jobs, increased employment and green jobs.

  • How to manage potential conflicts or perceived trade-offs between social and economic and social and environmental dimensions of sustainable development? What are effective approaches (what needs to be done) to manage them?

Social and economic, and social and environmental deals with a wider network of sectors. And this involves with linking and integrating the sectors. A larger network of persons including the disadvantaged sections of society are involved. The conflicts that could arise at the social level could be dealt with by creating policies that benefit both - the social and economic, and social and environmental. For eg. Creating inclusive policy addressing accessibility deals with aviation, aerospace, defence, healthcare, telecommunications and information technology, generates employment as well. Social and environmental policy is also created dealing with climate change. This addresses agriculture, sustainable development, ICT etc. By addressing all the sectors in various policy mechanisms could reduce the conflicts at the social level. And thereby benefitting everyone in a nation.

  • What will be the most effective mechanism to strengthen social pillars of sustainable development? What conceptual framework can be most useful to strengthen social dimensions of sustainable development in a more coherent and integrated manner?

Creating technological/ non-technological /scientific innovations across multiple sectors generates an integrated sustainable development. For eg. Sustainable Development deals with transportation, aviation, aerospace, defence, energy, climate etc. And introducing these sectors to the disadvantaged sections of society increases the social dimensions of sustainable development. Creating an inclusive policy could strengthen sustainable development in a more coherent and integrated manner.

Dosse SOSSOUGA • Executive Director at UN SDGs NGO Major Group d'or Africa: Amis des Étrangers au Togo: ADET from Togo

 L'implémentation du développement social doit être garanti par des lois internes, car dans le domaine social il y a assez de domaines inexploités par les pays pour créer d'emplois décents aux jeunes. L'agenda post 2015 a prévu, de ne laisser personne de côté, autrement dit une société inclusive où les personnes handicapées, les personnes âgées, les migrants, les jeunes sans exception, les peuples autochtones, les femmes et enfants urbains ou ruraux  verront une promotion de leurs  droits: droit à la vie, droit à la nourriture, droit à la santé, droit à l'éducation, droit à l'emploi décent, droit à la culture, à la langue, à une nationalité, à la paix,  au développement etc...Et Pourque c'est droits soient vécus par toutes ces catégories humaines, il faut créer des carrières de promotion sociale pour des gens qui seront appelés à exercer des emplois, en faveurs de ces catégories de personnes, jadis exclus des processus de prises de décision pour le développement dans presque toutes les sociétés du monde.

Pour réussir cette innovation sociale, il faut des mécanismes de promotion sociale, à mettre en place, par le governement et la socité civile: Ex au Togo: L'ONG: ADET à signé un accord programme de promotion sociale avec le gouvernement Togolais pour promouvoir les droits des couches sociales défavorisées, marginalisées, discriminées et exclues il y a longtemps.

Des documents sont attachés.

Mais la tâche ne sera pas facile, surtout que ces couches sont souvent considérées comme des"sans voix" qui auront désormais leur mots à placer dans les prises de décision qui affecteront leur vie et le budget national. A cause de la récession économique, la gestion des conflits sera très délicat surtout pour les migrants parce que provenant d'autres pays. Par rapport à l'environnement, le conflit sera aussi frappant, surtout que l'homme vulnérable vit, surtout, au dépend de l'environnement.

Pour gérer ces conflits le mécanisme mis en place à le devoir de faire recours à l'Etat, avec qui il devrait avoir une bonne relation,  à l'éducation civique, aux droits internationaux, à la législation locale et fournir aux groupes sociaux la nouvelle technologie pouvant les libérer de l'environnement pour une amélioration de l'adaptation climatique, de agriculture pour le développement durable.

Andrew Haigh (not verified)

I believe that the important comments made by Dr Kasule with regard to the implementation of social development or polices aimed at any development post 2015 would prove to be a firm foundation for efficiency and maximum effectiveness.Working from a framework based on an inclusive global approach to social development on an identity level ensuring this concept filters down through behaviour implementation of social development policy to fit in with each individual nations capabilities to implement the policy fitting in within each nations environment.

I strongly believe that the UN must always view positive changes to policies with a global village view.

Paula Echavarría (not verified)

Los ODS marcan un nuevo contexto internacional, ha existido un progreso y avance desde el año 2000 con el planteamiento de los ODM. Ha  existido un avance que si bien puede ser considerado insuficiente o desigual entre los países, nos ha llevado a dejar atrás la perspectiva de que es posible avanzar a lograr un mayor desarrollo sin considerar la sostenibilidad y el factor ambiental como un elemento transversal a todos los aspectos de nuestra sociedad. La necesidad de revisar nuestros procesos productivos y analizar sus consecuencias ambientales es inminente considerando los niveles críticos que está alcanzando la contaminación ambiental.

Esta visión sostenible abre muchas preguntas y posibilidades de avanzar en conjunto, en referencia a la posibilidad de establecer sinergias positivas entre las dimensiones sociales y económicas, y sociales y ambientales del desarrollo sostenible. Se abren distintos caminos y espacios para avanzar en conjunto con la sociedad civil, los trabajadores, las comunidades, los estados y las empresas, ecuación en la que todas las partes cumplan su función: la sociedad civil concientizando a la sociedad y ejerciendo presión para el respeto de la normativa ambiental internacional, los trabajadores denunciando y utilizando los foros existentes para plantear sus preocupaciones, las comunidades haciendo presentes sus preocupaciones y necesidades, los Estados impulsando medidas y políticas públicas que incentiven el desarrollo sostenible y asumiendo un rol activo en los foros internacionales y por último las empresas generando cambios positivos en relación a sus procesos productivos y de qué forma pueden incluir la perspectiva sostenible sin dejar de lado su búsqueda de generar utilidades, por medio por ejemplo de la creación de empleos verdes.

Es importante que se genere un debate fluido y un intercambio de ideas entre todas las partes que tienen intereses en este tema para dialogar sobre cuáles son las áreas en las que hay beneficios compartidos, por ejemplo, más empleos verdes generan producción para las empresas en las áreas por ejemplo de Innovación  y mejora de procesos mediante la reincorporación por ejemplo de materiales a las cadenas de valor, también en la generación de energía limpia y eficiente, la reducción de la contaminación e impacto ambiental y la conservación y manejo eficiente de recursos. Esta producción genera utilidades para las empresas, aumentando el nivel de desarrollo en general de los Estados y aumentando el nivel de empleabilidad total.  Es necesario el diálogo entre distintos sectores ya que sin el los objetivos se quedarán en el plano discursivo y los avances no serán los que nuestra sociedad necesita con urgencia.

csocd54 Moderator (not verified)

A Global Marshall Plan

Project Syndicate (Prague).   [Op-Ed].   Erik S. Reinert, Jomo Kwame Sundaram   20/04/2015.    

        ROME – Despite ongoing efforts to catalyze global development cooperation, there have been significant obstacles to progress in recent years. Fortunately, with major international meetings set for the second half of 2015, world leaders have an important opportunity to overcome them. Such a turnaround has happened before. At the turn of the century, international negotiations on economic development had also come to a grinding halt. The Seattle ministerial of the World Trade Organization ended without decision, and after two decades of the Washington Consensus, developing countries were frustrated at the US-led international financial institutions. Negotiations for the inaugural United Nations Financing for Development (FfD) conference in Monterrey, Mexico, seemed to be headed nowhere.Then, on September 11, 2001, the United States was hit with major terrorist attacks – a tragic development that somehow catalyzed progress. World leaders agreed to begin the Doha Development Round to ensure that trade negotiations would serve developing countries’ development aspirations. And the 2002 Monterrey FfD conference produced major breakthroughs on foreign and domestic investment, foreign debt, international cooperation, trade, and systemic governance issues.Of course, tragedy is not needed to kick-start progress. This year’s major global meetings – the Conference on Financing for Development in July, the meeting at the United Nations to adopt Sustainable Development Goals in September, and the UN Climate Change Conference in Paris in December – should be sufficient. And the efforts that have gone into preparing for these meetings suggest that there is a will to move forward. But the right program is key.The world needs a well-designed and far-reaching strategy to stimulate industrialization, modeled after the European Recovery Program – the American initiative that enabled Europe to rebuild after World War II. The Marshall Plan, as it is better known, entailed a massive infusion of US aid to support national development efforts in Europe, and is still viewed by many Europeans as America’s finest hour.The Marshall Plan’s impact was felt far beyond Europe’s borders, developing over the following decade into what is probably the most successful economic-development assistance project in human history.Similar policies were introduced in Northeast Asia following the establishment of the People’s Republic of China and the Korean War. Of course, there was a political motivation behind the Marshall Plan’s expansion. By creating a cordon sanitaire of wealthy countries from Western Europe to Northeast Asia, the US hoped to contain the spread of communism at the start of the Cold War. Developing countries that did not serve the same political ends were left out. At its core, however, the Marshall Plan was an economic strategy – and a sound one at that. Crucially, it represented a complete reversal of its predecessor, the Morgenthau Plan, which focused on de-industrialization – with poor results. The plan’s aim – articulated by Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau, Jr., in his 1945 book Germany is Our Problem – was to convert Germany into a “principally agricultural and pastoral” country, in order to prevent its involvement in any new wars. By late 1946, however, economic hardship and unemployment in Germany spurred former US President Herbert Hoover to visit the country on a fact-finding mission.  Hoover’s third report of March 18, 1947, called the notion that Germany could be reduced to a pastoral state an “illusion,” which could not be achieved without exterminating or moving 25,000,000 people out of the country. The only alternative was re-industrialization. Less than three months later, Secretary of State George Marshall made his landmark speech at Harvard University announcing the policy reversal. Germany and the rest of Europe were to be re-industrialized, he stated, including through heavy-handed state interventions, such as high duties, quotas, and import prohibitions. Free trade would be possible only after reconstruction, when European countries could compete in international markets.Marshall made three other important points in his short speech. First, in noting the role that the breakdown of trade between urban and rural areas played in Germany’s economic slowdown, he recalled a centuries-old European economic insight: all wealthy countries have cities with a manufacturing sector. “The remedy,” Marshall explained, “lies in…restoring the confidence of the European people,” so that “the manufacturer and the farmer” would be “able and willing to exchange their products for currencies, the continuing value of which is not open to question.”Second, Marshall argued that participatory institutions emerge from economic progress, not the other way around – the opposite of today’s conventional wisdom. As he put it, the policy’s purpose should be the revival of a working economy in the world, so as to permit the emergence of political and social conditions in which free institutions can exist.”Third, Marshall emphasized that aid should be comprehensive and strategic, in order to foster real progress and development. “Such assistance,” he declared, “must not be on a piecemeal basis as various crises develop. Any assistance that this government may render in the future should provide a cure, rather than a mere palliative.”Marshall’s vision offers important lessons for world leaders seeking to accelerate development today, beginning with the need to reverse the effects of the Washington Consensus on developing and transition economies – effects that resemble those of the Morgenthau Plan. Some countries – including large economies like China and India, which have long protected domestic industry – have been in a better position to benefit from economic globalization. Others have experienced a decline in economic growth and real per capita income, as their industry and agricultural capacity have fallen, especially over the last two decades of the last century.It is time to increase poor economies’ productive capacity and purchasing power, as occurred in Europe in the decade after Marshall’s speech. Marshall’s insight that such shared economic development is the only way to create a lasting peace remains as true as ever.Erik S. Reinert is the author of How Rich Countries Got Rich…and Why Poor Countries Stay Poor.Jomo Kwame Sundaram is Coordinator for Economic and Social Development at the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations.

Dosse SOSSOUGA • Executive Director at UN SDGs NGO Major Group d'or Africa: Amis des Étrangers au Togo: ADET from Togo

Oui, le changement a été possible avec MASCHALL, quelques dirigeants mondiaux l'ont suivi pour amorcer le développement de leurs pays.

Il est claire ici qu' il y a la volonté politique" la motivation politique" pour le bien de tous et celà s'est réalisé. MARSHALL n'a pas été tué, corrompu, emprisonné, maltraité, dénigré mais au contraire soutenu par tous et il nous a laissé ses bonnes oeuvres, des exemples toujours vivantes à suivre pour le dévelopment de nos pays et la prospérité de tous. aujourd'hui, le racisme, la discrimination raciale, la xénophobie, l'exclusion, la corruption, la recherche de gain facile et le changement climatique renforcent le fossé entre les riches et les pauvres. L'exode rurale, la migration, les nofrages, les expulsions, les conflits, le terrorisme et la paix nationale et international indispensable pour le dévelopment sont de vécus quotidiens. Les ODD veulent suivre les pas de MARSHALL, Ils ont besoin de la motivation politique, de la paix et de la sécurité, de l'engagement citoyenne et participative, d'une réforme mentale, législative et institutionnelle. Si les dirigeants des pays pauvres veulent sortir leurs pays de la pauvreté telle est le grand boulevard tracé par MARSHALL.

csocd54 Moderator (not verified)

7 Risks That Are Making Climate Change Into One of the Biggest Security Threats of the 21st Century

The Huffington Post (US).   [Op-Ed].   Lukas Rüttinger   17/04/2015.            

 Climate change is advancing. Its effects can be felt already today and will increase significantly in the coming decades even if the global community sets ambitious targets for reducing emissions at the end-of-year climate change negotiations in Paris. On behalf of the G7 foreign ministries, an international research consortium from Germany, France, Great Britain and the USA, led by the Berlin-based think tank adelphi, analysed what this means for global security and the fragility of states and communities. The findings were published in the report "A New Climate for Peace -- Taking Action on Climate and Fragility Risks."Climate impacts are intensifying crises and conflicts around the world. One central finding is that there are no "climate wars," as some experts claim. Not today and, as far as we know, not tomorrow. Instead of wars directly caused by climate change, we are increasingly being confronted with crises and conflicts that are intensified by climate change. In particular, states that lack legitimacy and are struggling with weak government institutions will find it difficult to manage the combined and increasing pressure of climate change, population growth, uncontrolled urbanisation, increasing resource consumption, unequal economic development, and environmental degradation. These combined stressors and pressures can lead to political instability and conflicts. The breakdown of states and societies threatens to cause a downward spiral of increasing fragility. Although the exact strength of the current effects of climate change is a hotly debated topic, the following examples give an indication of what the future could look like:Syria: Between 2006 and 2011 Syria suffered a serious drought destroying many people's livelihood, especially in rural areas: Almost 75 percent of Syria's farmers lost their harvest. Many fled to the cities and the government failed to respond to the resulting humanitarian crisis. Pressures bubbled over as a result of the influence of the Arab Spring, combined with grievances towards the authoritarian regime that had built up over the years. Thailand: Heavy monsoon rains in 2011 led to flooding in 26 provinces, which affected two million people. The political landscape was already fragile after violent protests between 2008 and 2010. Many considered the government's attempts at managing the disaster to be misguided and inequitable. Hundreds of people protested the unfair distribution of aid supplies and the protests continued until a military coup occurred in 2013. At the foundation of these and many similar examples are seven compound risks. These risks have been expounded on in detail in the report and are meant to bring future crises into sharper focus for foreign policy makers: 1. Local resource competition: As the pressure on natural resources increases, competition can lead to instability and even violent conflict in the absence of effective dispute resolution. 2. Livelihood insecurity and migration: Climate changes will increase the human insecurity of people who depend on natural resources for their livelihoods, which could push them to migrate or turn to illegal sources of income.3. Extreme weather events and disasters will exacerbate fragility challenges and can increase people's vulnerability and grievances, especially in conflict-affected situations.4. Volatile food prices and provision: Climate change is highly likely to disrupt food production in many regions, increasing prices and market volatility, and heightening the risk of protests, rioting, and civil conflict.5. Transboundary water management: Transboundary waters are frequently a source of tension; as demand grows and climate impacts affect availability and quality, competition over water use will likely ncrease the pressure on existing governance structures. 6. Sea-level rise and coastal degradation: Rising sea levels will threaten the viability of low-lying areas even before they are submerged, leading to social disruption, displacement, and migration, while disagreements over maritime boundaries and ocean resources may increase.7. Unintended effects of climate policies: As climate adaptation and mitigation policies are more broadly implemented, the risks of unintended negative effects - particularly in fragile contexts - will also increase.These seven compound risk factors interact in complex ways and extend across borders: for example transboundary water conflicts can disrupt local livelihoods and extreme weather events in the USA and Russia can lead to food insecurity in Egypt. It is therefore not sufficient to address these risks separately. Moreover, when policies and problem-solving approaches ignore the interdependent and systemic nature of climate-fragility risks, they can even exacerbate these risks. Interdependent risks require cross-sectoral and integrated answers that break out of the silos of climate, development and peace policy.

Jacqueline Rodríguez Vega (not verified)

Antes de referirme al tema de la discusión, quiero empezar por saludar a todos los participantes. Me gustaría añadir al debate un tema interesante de análisis, en relación al papel de la mujer en el desarrollo sustentable y las energías limpias. Aún persiste una brecha de género considerable en nuestro planeta, por lo que me parece importante enfatizar en esta área, dentro de las consideraciones en la planificación futura que contribuya al desarrollo.

 La conexión entre energías limpias, desarrollo sustentable y desarrollo social, son una realidad evidente, especialmente en el mundo rural, donde las mujeres requieren acceso a fuentes energéticas, que sean favorables para su progreso. La mayor parte de los 1.600 millones de personas que viven sin ninguna fuente fiable de energía, y de los 2.700 millones de personas que dependen de fogatas para cocinar y para encontrar abrigo, son mujeres rurales (ONU Mujeres, 2012).

Estas situaciones tienen consecuencias negativas en la salud y limitan el acceso a la educación y oportunidades de trabajo, de mujeres y niñas. Las experiencias recientes en África Occidental, donde cerca de 2 mil aldeas rurales han sido beneficiadas con servicios de energía limpias, han permitido disminuir el tiempo destinado a labores domésticas de las mujeres, mejorando sus ingresos, nivel de alfabetización y aumentando el acceso a la educación.

 Estas iniciativas son una muestra de que las energías limpias están en directa relación con el desarrollo sustentable y que en este ámbito, el empoderamiento de la mujer es de gran valor. Sin embargo, aún queda bastante por hacer en esta área, en la que podemos encontrar oportunidades de empleo decente y fuentes de trabajos sustentables, donde sabemos que las mujeres se encuentran en desventaja. La generación de empleos provenientes de las energías limpias, se han convertido en un camino para que las mujeres adopten roles de productoras, promotoras y vendedoras de energía sostenible.

A lo anterior me gustaría agregar que en mayo de 2014, se realizó en Chile el “Primer Encuentro de Mujeres y Energía Solar”, en el marco de la Segunda Cumbre de Energía Solar del país, cuyo objetivo fue el debatir sobre el papel de la mujer en el sector de energía solar y su participación en proyectos innovadores, incentivando la participación de las mujeres en el sector solar, con la creación de redes de contacto a lo largo de todo este país.

De esta manera, como estuvo impreso en los ODM, la igualdad de género y el reforzamiento del papel de la mujer deben seguir considerándose y manteniéndose firmemente en la estrategia de desarrollo sustentable.

Jinwoo Lee (not verified)

Dear Ms. Diana Alarcon

I am honored to participate this fantastic discussion I am from South Korea and taking EST 291 class from SUNY Korea. I selected the question that “In which areas positive synergies (win-win situation) between social and economic, and social and environmental dimensions of sustainable development can be created? What are effective policy tools to enable this (i.e., decent work, social protection, green jobs, etc.)”

A country's economic growth is directly affects the government ability to improve the social development of the citizens who live in that country. Economic growth and social development are correlated because a country needs money to improve the living conditions for citizens. Economic growth and social development require a balance of economic growth with a social responsibility.

As nation is growing, social development should become an important goal for them. This development includes infrastructure, medicine, housing, education, and improved food quality for the society. Economic growth and social development are dependent on each other because a country cannot afford social development without the financial capital. A government must be able to spend money on improving the social development for the citizens.

Economic growth is critical for business innovation. Governments that help businesses grow are more likely to improve a nation financial part. This additional revenue is later collected through taxes, which can be used to help the social development of the citizens.

Now, move on to the concept of environment that has evolved since it started to become a global issue in early days. Firstly, human beings have been contributing much to its degeneration of the environment. Countries started to join efforts to make a balance between improving the quality of human life and protecting the environment for the sake of future generations. The social and economic welfare of human beings is closely linked to their environment. Any change in the socioeconomic fields will have an impact on the environment and vice versa, whether positively or negatively.

The sustainable development is a process for a human development goal while sustaining the natural to continue to provide the natural resources and ecosystem upon which the economy and society depend on.

In my opinion, the key policies to enable the sustainable development are Enterprise development, Occupational safety and health, Social protection, and Active labor market policies.

 

Dosse SOSSOUGA • Executive Director at UN SDGs NGO Major Group d'or Africa: Amis des Étrangers au Togo: ADET from Togo

I agree with the active labour market but if citizen do not do mental reforms, they have to stay on place and accused governments to not created jobs for them. A Republic President said in a election campaign that there are many jobs in his country but youth refuse to work.

I propose that governments must be clear with the social development policies by reforming laws and the institutions. Create a good trust and political motivation for civil society and respect the human right engagements ratified.

GEORGES RADJOU (not verified)

Friends,

The differencebetween sustainable development and revolutionary development- Theyare common points and diverging points:

1°- Post 2015 SDGs versus SDGS as arevolutionnary process:

a) Common points: the need for changes isimportant, so the change amplitudesare as important as in both the Post 2015sustainable development process and theSDG as a revolutionary development process.

In 2011 at UNDPI-NGO UNSECGEN referredto the need for a sustainable development that needsto be revolutionary.

So, my viewpoint is, if there are some commonpoints, in the need for important changes, we shouldto dig a trench between old paradigms and new ones bychoosing Post 2015 SDGs as it is in the UN proposal, in an deliberatemanner (than emerging one)

However, a potential 2015Sustainable Development Goals within a revolutionary process, which can be embedded inside a Post 2015deliberate Sustainable Development is not comparable to a''velvet revolution'', as some authorsthink that the transition from MDGs to SDGs is like that dueto the resource scarcity and constrained.

In fact, I believe it is theopposite, because this process is not an historical accident, but aplanned action from the international community, and also it is apeaceful revolution. In fact, the Post 2015 SDG (17 indicators and169 targets) have been compared to a dignity road by excellency BanKi Moon.

b) Revolutionary process can be critical ina number of ways, which Post 2015 SDGs do not share. Example, theviolence and number of deads expected tohappen in the revolution, (like all revolutions, it is notpeacefull,…), the rupture, between past and future, whichis catastrophic and unplanned like in a reaction to anger, andbecause of variabilities and unknowns, which make changes has anhistorical accidents rather than deliberate

What has createda possible confusion between SDG and a SDG revolution process, itis in both cases the useof change cycles. Revolutions can have several cycles asintegrated processes, too example of IntegratedWater Resource Management, IWRM).

The Post 2015 SDGs are likely to be a globalpackages of deliberate needs (in principle), while, a post 2015 SDGthat would be revolutionary has uncontrolabilitiesand full of hazards.

It is not what the dignity road is about.Opposite it is to remove barriers to development for inclusive andharmonious society growth, creation of decent jobs, zeropoverty, zero waste, keeping the 2°Celsius for global warming as anobjective for the 21rst century. Revolutions are likely tobe piecemeal and hurting, while road to dignity isa country global package base on partnershipbetween Public and Private Organizations, andleaving no organizations and peoples behind.

c) In implementing a change process, which isquick from MDGs to SDGs due to resource constrained and looking toutilize the global commons, it is at ease with thedevelopment agenda with several milestones.

The 1rst part is the transitionperiod, which is likely to be an important change and an integrativeprocess, (on the short run)

2nd part is more about work in progressand the real implementation, (on the long run)

And both short and long run needs to haverobust source of financing and/or new ideas, breakthrought projects.

One question has remained, as the short run isa short period of time of 12 months (between 2015and 2016). Do the 193 UN countries need to movetogether and take the initiative to change at the same speed, but notwith the same : intensities,  frequenciesor levels of equality... depending on the initialstatus of the developed or developing countries (at the start of thechange process, to archieve the same good results expected by 2030deadline) ?

Say it differently and tocompare with bamboo flowering in the world :

Is Post 2015 SDG a change process, whichis comparable to Bamboo trees, when they are getting flowers every 50years, they are all getting flowers at the same time, every /anywhere on earth planet,… ? It meansa small or a bigcountry would be comparable tobamboo flowering, that is a country having at thesame time, an equivalent rate of change process to adapt to Post 2015SDG agenda ?

If itwas the case, it would be a perfectprocess of alignment of the international community on these Post2015 SDGs.

Conclusion : Post 2015 SDG ispeacefull and align (possibly, to get to the minimalismamount of desirable synergy). Again, itcannot be a SDG revolutionary process, butlooking merely at a tsunamy of change measures fromMDGs to SDGs with very well paced and programmedfor actions and the necessary investment and knowledges.

2° - What can happen during the short runperiod, if Post 2015 SDG (between 2015-2016) is not a SDGrevolutionary process, but the start of the Dignity road.

Depends of the country willing to be engagedactively and challenging its own development path  on the road to dignity. This will be a matter of thecountry development clocks. Are theyaligned or not with the Post 2015 agenda (pacing the countryinternational changes)-

In this way, ti will dependon the country clock alignements to the Post 2015 SDG agenda, 3 casescan occurs, which is making Post 2015 SDGs more experimental-than a revolutionay- process, with testing and validationphases in order to comply with the Post 2015 development model(s)

Examples in: recycling, education, trade,supply chain...

Case 1- a countryfailure to comply, so there should be international solidaritymecanism to assist LeastDeveloped Countries -LDCs-(or countries which are not harmful to the environment interm of GHGs, but are more at risk. Forexample, Small Islands Developing States (SIDS) economies canbe more vulnerable states. Also, failedstates,but with a different political purpose...

Case 2- countries that arecompatible with the Post 2015 SDG agenda, that are accepting thechanges, but have not real means to implement it on a sustainedsustainable way. These countries that may be sustainable on a shortperiod (but not on the long run) will need to use more appropriatetechnologies, leverage, and energy leaderships. So,that Post 2015 SDGs are not burdensome or jeopardizing overalldevelopment (in principle it should not be the case, as the Post 2015is a longterm process, based on worldwidecountry consultations (before during and afterRio + 20) and integrating different agendas (World We Want, Agenda21...Global Commons). But, as the future is not 100% determined byforecasts or prospective science, one has to takeinto account the abnormal demands that go with crises(climate, economy, jobs...), and which is able tochange the short term planning , and jeopardize the long run.Hopefully, there will be less harms, if there aregood societal due dilignence and businesscontinuity. Good governance will provide to countries a better balance for communityresiliency...

Case 3:These are the robust countries- they havealready a good economy based on sustainable development, or they areat a transitory period of their sustainable development and theyfound it is good for peoples and the biodiversity,..

They are able to use an effectivegovernance model, or they are willing to change for gearing faster orbetter to sustainability world that is offered by Post 2015SDGs, but they need to be helped (example are influentialcountries, but not willing to change their CO2 emissions, because ofdecision making processes that go against theirnational political arena...(fortunatly these are very few ofthes countries, but they can weight moston the international stage).Thefore thus, hugediplomacy, education methods, and showing what arethe gains of Post SDGs, as well as putting in place incentives, likenew models of Carbon market and trade...to ease the debateand get the consensus on the implementation of the Post 2015 SDGs

Thank you.

 

Denisse Hurtado M. (not verified)

Junto con saludar a todos los participantes, quisiera aportar a la discusión con algunas ideas para responder a las preguntas que han dado pie a este debate sobre la implementación de la Agenda del Desarrollo post-2015.

A nivel global, me parece que los 17 Objetivos de Desarrollo Sostenible (ODS) propuestos por el Grupo de Trabajo  Abierto de Naciones Unidas sobre los Objetivos de Desarrollo, se perfilan el día de hoy como una herramienta clave para implementar los compromisos de los Estados en el marco de la Agenda post- 2015, por cuanto consideran todas las dimensiones en las cuales se entrecruzan los tres pilares del Desarrollo Sostenible (lo social, económico y político). Desde esta perspectiva, los ODS resultan más adecuados a los desafíos que enfrentan hoy los Estados en un contexto de globalización e interdependencia asimétrica y se presentan como estándares que éstos deben alcanzar. Dentro de ello, me parece que los ODS son parte de una visión más realista del desarrollo y más integral (pero también "transformativa"), que busca concientizar a los Estados respecto a que el desarrollo no es igual a crecimiento económico solamente, sino que implica crecer sustentablemente, con un foco en las personas y el bienestar social general. Como se señaló en el Documento Final de la Conferencia Rio+20, el futuro que estamos construyendo hoy “es de todos”.

Considerando que los Estados viven situaciones y niveles dispares de desarrollo, estimo que la comunidad internacional debe hacerse cargo de estas diferencias e impulsar mecanismos más amplios de cooperación económica y técnica (por ejemplo: Sur-Sur o Triangular) para apoyar a aquellos países en niveles más bajos de desarrollo. Creo que una vía para avanzar en ello  -como se ha indicado en comentarios anteriores- es aumentar las alianzas regionales e impulsar acciones y medidas (por ejemplo, financieras) desde los organismos universales como Naciones Unidas y sus diferentes fondos, programas y agencias. Bajo esta lógica, creo que es necesario también avanzar hacia el fortalecimiento de una gobernanza mundial más coherente y más justa, por ejemplo en el área del comercio, la transferencia tecnológica o en el sector financiero internacional.

Sin dudas, los Estados reunidos en septiembre próximo deberán impulsar una Agenda del Desarrollo Post-2015 que refleje adecuadamente la diversidad de las realidades nacionales y sea flexible para lograr las metas comunes. Creo además que la Agenda debe incluir transversalmente un enfoque de género en su implementación así como la erradicación de la pobreza como un elemento central.

Timothy SCOTT • Policy Advisor at UNDP from United States

Dear Diana and colleagues,

There are several entry points for advancing social development within the SD context.

One of these is through a focus on the Poverty-Environment nexus, and related inclusive green economy approaches. Several reports are available that synthesize lessons and findings from country and community led efforts in this regard.

The first of these is a  Rio+20 global Synthesis Report prepared drawing on over 50 National Reports:

http://www.uncsd2012.org/nationalpreparations.html

 

Additional global reports of relevance:

 

-What drives institutions to adopt integrated development approaches?

The poverty-environment nexus and analysis of country evidence from the Poverty-Environment Initiative

http://www.unpei.org/sites/default/files/publications/What_drives_institutions_to_adopt_integrated_development_approaches_0.pdf

 

The Poverty Environment Partnership report on:

BUILDING AN INCLUSIVE GREEN ECONOMY FOR ALL: OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES FOR OVERCOMING POVERTY AND INEQUALITY available here: 

http://povertyenvironment.net/content/building-inclusive-green-economy-… 

 

The UNDP-UNEP Poverty Envionment initiative (PEI) has prepared a Handbook on integrating poverty-environment concerns into the planning, budgeting, implementation and monitoring of national and sub-national policy frameworks, available here: www.unpei.org

There are a range number of integrated diagnostics tools, policy instruments and measurement frameworks that support these efforts.

  • Integrated decision-making tools to assess options for an inclusive, green economy.  Such decision-making tools include long-term macro-economic modelling of economic, social and environment trade-offs and synergies, e.g. on labour markets and livelihoods, and tools such as poverty social impact assessment and strategic environmental assessment of selected policies.

 

  • Policy instruments to encourage more inclusive, green economy approaches.  Such instruments include fiscal policies and environmental fiscal reform, budget reviews, social protection including public works programmes, micro-credit, adaptive social protection and conditional cash transfers for social and environmental objectives, e.g. through REDD+, public private partnerships, and provision of decent and “green” employment and trade policies to promote social or environmental objectives.

 

  • Measurement frameworks to track progress towards the social and environmental outcomes of an inclusive, green economy.  These can include green accounting systems, MDG assessments, State of Environment Reports, Human Development Reporting and poverty or climate and environment public expenditure reviews to assess expenditure on social and environmental objectives, and composite indices, including the Mutlidimensional Poverty Index and Inclusive Wealth Index. Such national indicators are linked to the international debate on Sustainable Development Goals and indicators for the post-2015 Millennium Development Goal targets.

kind regards,Tim Scott

Isidora Rojas (not verified)

Para la existencia de verdaderos cambios positivos los Estados deben comprometerse, desde el escenario multilateral, a atener sus acciones y políticas internas en concordancia con las adoptadas por consenso por la comunidad internacional, es menester en primer lugar y ante todo, voluntad política.

Este año 2015 se presenta como un desafío y una posibilidad de conmemorar los compromisos adquiridos en la década de los noventa, época en la cual,  se tenía por parte de los Estados interés en generar un cambio a nivel global a mediano y largo  plazo. Desde mi región,  la tarea que exigen los ODS no es solo una obligación para con el resto del mundo, sino que también con nuestro propio desarrollo. Latinoamérica y el Caribe pueden ser factores de cambio particularmente, desde una perspectiva medioambiental. La conformación de trabajos verdes y las posibilidades que estos entregan, significan un avance del que se puede dirigir entonces a un desarrollo amplio e inclusivo, que permita el crecimiento económico a la vez que respete los ecosistemas y sociedades sobre las que éstas habitan.

Los ODS deben ser el impulso que requiere la comunidad internacional para generar consensos que no solo soluciones problemas locales, sino atacar las raíces de los temas transversales a todos.  Latinoamérica y el Caribe en los años noventa estaba viviendo una ola democratizadora   y en el ámbito multilateral, se detectó la carencia de una voz fuerte y unívoca ante todos los cambios que comenzaban a sentirse desde Naciones Unidas.

 Hoy la situación ha cambiado, y esto facilita la posibilidad de generar sinergias con otras regiones del mundo, con países con las mismas afinidades y de este modo, generar posturas globales que den cuenta de las necesidades de todos los participantes. No debemos olvidar lo que representan estos ODS, puesto que no son  una continuación de los ODM, sino una profundización y ampliación de los temas más relevantes para nuestra comunidad. Por lo mismo, desde la mirada de la sustentabilidad, se exige ante todo, voluntad de nuestras clases gobernantes, así como también  la inclusión en el dialogo permanente de los nuevos actores internacionales tales como, la sociedad civil y el mundo privado.

Pablo Walker (not verified)

Más allá del diálogo sobre estos temas, creo que en la práctica se evidencia una disparidad entre el discurso y las acciones concretas que llevan a cabo los países desarrollados para fomentar el logro de los objetivos planteados en esta discusión. Un ejemplo evidente de esto es la política sostenida que los países Europeos y Estados Unidos mantienen respecto de los subsidios alimentarios, esto atenta contra el desarrollo de todo el resto del mundo que debe competir en condiciones desventajosas en un área tan sensible como el agro, perpetuando el subdesarrollo en gran parte del mundo. Esta circunstancia se ve particularmente agravada en razón de la crisis alimentaria que sufren varios países y que contrasta con los problemas de obesidad que experimenta el mundo desarrollado.

El derecho a vivir una vida digna y libre de pobreza y el derecho a la alimentación son los derechos humanos más fundamentales. Cada una de las deliberaciones nacionales (organizadas por Más Allá del 2015, el Llamamiento Global a la Acción Contra la Pobreza (GCAP) y el Foro Internacional de Plataformas de ONG nacionales (IFP)),  ha identificado la aspiración a erradicar la pobreza y el hambre como base esencial para la nueva agenda de desarrollo.

En este sentido, resulta imperativo trabajar colectivamente para encontrar nuevas formas de organizar la sociedad, nuestra relación con el planeta y la lógica de nuestra economía. Es justamente en este cambio de paradigma donde deben cooperar las grandes potencias más allá de lo discursivo, pues son ellas quienes mantienen la lógica de dominación que dificulta el camino al desarrollo.

GEORGES RADJOU (not verified)

FRIENDS,

Tonight, I have received a comment from my friends organising for actions (OFA) that I want to discuss about Flat earthers versus climate change deniers, in a more general manner

 

Both qualitative and quantitative observations and data showed thatclimate changes is happening.

 

The shape of theearth planet is related to viewpoints, metrics and tools of themethods of studies.

 

a) Seeing the earth as flat and being called flat-eathers is not veryimportant, because in order to see the world differently, one needsto have people to see it flat.

A flat earth or a spherical earth is a matter of viewpoints andobservation means to represent the earth and what the scientists wantto demonstrate.

 

At the earliest stage of cartography and mapping, people would have avery distorted idea of the shape of the earth planet, however ithelped the human ingenuity to make progresses in the field of humanor physical geography, particularly with adventurous travels (often,by the mean of walking on the flat surface of the earth soils,mankind manage to discover that the real physical shape of the earthplanet was not flat, but round.

 

Today, the shape of the earth depends of viewpoint and observationsand the space and time environment, the earth could be flat, big,small, distorted,...I think it is relevant only for the experience wewant to draw a line. For example, if one analyses poverty, cleanwater, purchasing power, poverty rate, number of industries or carsper households or individual per countries, also the time travel withan aircraft has narrowed distances between communities. Ultimately,taking into account these new economic indicators one could see thatcountry shapes are different according to their governance, number ofchildren per families. A country can be big for the purchasing power,but small for the number of children per household.

 

b) In the case of climate changes there have been enough evidencethat it is happening and it is linked with anthropogenic atmosphericgazes that increased since the industrial revolutions. Maybe it makesa difference, if we see the earth flat or round. Possibly the climatewould be affected differently with various degrees. So, there is acommon agreement and understanding of climate changes about climatechange scenario. Climate changes could vary from 1° Celsius to 6 °Celsius and the worse amplitude of temperature increase and the worsewould be the amplification mechanism.

 

c) It does not means because temperature is increasing that therewill be risks everywhere, the earth planet will be hot everywhere. Infact, we do not know how the climate change will impact due to theseamplification mechanisms created by the temperature increase scenarioof catastrophic events. Some experts, scientist and industrialists ofcourse see climate changes more as an opportunity than a risk. Thereis a saying, if peoples are optimistic, they will always see lifepositively. Opposite, if one is pessimistic, one will always see lifenegatively. Both attitudes and vision of life needs to be compounded,as all communities today, are interconnected with faster, and moreintense, globalization processes, with new trends of exchanges andcenter balances for trades or powers, that it is opportune to keepsociety stable in order to avoid jeopardizing progress and ruineconomic development.

 

For example, business people see that climate change is anopportunity for economic growth, because while the sea is rising,there will be also the snow melt. So melt can be bad for floods incities, which has an increasing costs today for post worldreconstruction recoveries, but at the same time snow melt is creatingnew field for oil explorations and resources that was buried underthe cold ice, which is now much easy to tap until. On the one handthe same phenomenon is a risk, and on the other hand it is anopportunity. In the case of atmospheric event, it is what I calledthe  amplification mechanisms, because nobody can forecast how wouldbe climate change in location places when compounding climate changerisk and climate change opportunities.

The fact, is as our society and the Descartes analysis has created aculture of rationality and stability through the science, it isalways social stability, which is ethical and a positive gains(compared to a revolutions, which often compared as a risky changeprocess.

 

Also, development proceeds is based on these new discoveries ofroutes (sea, land an air routes) like in the past when ChristopherColumbus discover by accident America- Europe was in crisis, and thediscovery of the new Eldorado in Latina helped to replenish thecountry national budget with the gold of the Incas and other nativeIndians…But, today with several wars in the Mediterranean regions,we are all perfectly aware, that this is the balance of the regions(if not the world) and the new discoveries of routes from North poleto Mediterranean and the resources, which are at stake.

 

In 21rst century those who think that the earth is going to changes forgoods and opportunities rather than dangers are called the climatechange deniers

 

a) One needs to have a minimum of science background to understandthe topic. Obviously if peoples are not educated to the matter ofscience and climate changes, it is easy to observe the weatherpatterns, and the seasons to see that they are different than in thepast. For example, there is less snow, more rains and acid rains,winters are milder, summers can witness heat waves. making some partsof the world very contrasted compared to what we use to know aboutnatural elements from my own generations: water, air, soil, winds,sunshine, temperature, atmospheric and water related hazards, alsoblack smokes on Himalaya mountains, Ozone layer mechanism, number ofcancers linked to climate changes are good examples to show evidencethat climate change is happening either for flat earthers or climatedeniers.

 

b) All weather and atmospheric related health and hazard concernswould not exist if the temperature was stable and the atmosphere wasa shield against harmful radiative waves coming from the sun. Infact, without the emissions of industrial revolutions, the airtemperature would be little lower, but the accumulations of heat fromthe destruction of the ozone layers, and the smokes of industrialprocesses have increased the temperature, to make the environmentless stable.

 

In fact, our natural equilibrium is a well gear and pace naturalclock, where all the biodiversity is in harmony with nature and witheach species in the environment. The science of biology described thearchitecture as the web of life. All animals and plants areinterconnected without gaps to create a resilient environment.

 

c) What hard technological development has created are gaps in theweb of life, and natural cycle. So, when a natural element ismissing, it is all the natural chain (also called the food chain)that will be lost, and part of the balanced biodiversity will beextincted due to the change process in the ecosystem.

 

So, as it is say losses of biodiversity is bad, but as nature isalways winning, there is as much as new creations of matters and biodiversities that on the scale of a human life, may not be visible-relevant for 1 generations or 2, but it may be more transparent on alonger geological period, new matters and biodiversity may betransformed by the natural process and by human interventions, tore-surface as new shape to mix the old one for good or bad for thehuman processes. Perhaps, disease like Ebola, which was unknown mayhas surfaced because of disruptive processes like cultural changes,conflict affected environment in West Africa on the anthropologicalviewpoint.

 

 

Today what are the challenges ?

 

It is about the capacity of nature to self-recycle itself – So,within a human existence of one or 2 generations, nature can beresilient and repair itself, from the harms and salvages caused bythe human development through harmful activities -for example, theimpervious surfaces due to urbanism, house roofs, roads are speedingup floods in cities and making rain falls more dangerous. Also, watercannot be drain unless there is water waste treatment, which is verycost effective, when there is a need to replace them.

 

If there are too many artificial changes in the landscape, thenatural process will not be able to repair itself in harmony with theinitial web of life, and there is a risk of catastrophic events asone can see it from time to time with disaster events- For example,like tsunami in mountains, avalanches, flash floods, hurricanes,…

 

It is not natural events, which are risk factors, but people andtheir production models. Maybe climate changes in the past alwaysexisted, but the difference is today, climate change is a riskadverse factor because of the population dynamics, acceleration ofmass productions, not reducing waste, accumulated….

 

I believe, it is why climate change is today a risk, while it was notin the past. So, climate changes may have opportunities to creategrowth for all, but it will not be without impacting on peoplehealths, lives, livelihoods, properties, assets in a with increasetenses particularly with 10 billion people (will in 1905, there wasonly 1 billion people.

 

Therefore the need to clarify past development models, and re-definenew development trajectories that is more sustainable, so people andbiodiversity can cope with these anthropogenic changes and the needfor more controllable (and hedge funds).

 

Thanks,

 

Georges

BIRD

 

Euna Jung (not verified)

I am glad to participate in the e-discussion on social development and implementation of the Post-2015 Development.

 

There is an area that satisfies both social and economic and social and environment called Green Job. Green Job takes the most essential part in the sustainable development and solving global challenges of environmental protection, economic growth, and social inclusion. The International Labour Organization (ILO) promotes the green growth of firms, work experiences, and the labor markets through Green Job. United Nations Environment Program (UNEP) and ILO predicted that as the “Green economy” appears, it would create countless numbers of occupations, which will be provided to people within twenty to thirty years. It will provide valuable opportunities, lift resource efficiency, and create low-carbon sustainable societies. Also, it will develop a nation’s society and economics. Green Job is divided into different sections, such as transportation, energy supply, buildings (structures), agriculture, and so on.  

 

Among these subjects, I want to emphasize in energy supply and agriculture sections. Energy supply mostly consists of integrated gasification, renewable energy, and fuel cells. In 2006, 2.3 million people were employed in the renewable energy sector, but it was only 2% of the global energy supply. Nevertheless, these sectors of employment rates are increasing gradually in Germany. In 2004, there were 166,000 positions and it increased to 259,000 in 2006.

Secondly, the agricultural sector deals with preservation of soils, water efficiency, organic method of farming, and reduction distance between farms and markets. By reducing the distance between farms and markets, the products’ prices can be dropped since it will not take long to deliver products in short distances.  Many people believe that agriculture has high potential of many employments opportunities. For Britain and Island, if the organic farming increases to 20%, they will have 73.000 and 9,000 positions created respectively. Also, South Africa’s program called, “Working for Water,” already has provided job positions to 25,000 people. Moreover, there are other similar programs such as Water Pathway for Agriculture, Protection of Water, and Development of Dams.

 

In order to implement this great project, the government should evaluate Green Job’s potential and continue to monitor the progresses. In addition, there should be educations for companies to reduce skill gaps between employees. Also, companies should understand and provide stable frameworks for the greenmarket through reducing prices and increasing incentives. Government also should expand investments and finances. More importantly, in my opinion, government should talk to the people and intercommunicate with the organizations.

 

In this way, the world will develop socially, economically, and environmentally.

 

Thank you.

 

Laura (Eun A) Jung

Jaehun Kim (not verified)

Dear all,

 

On 21st April, 2015, South Korean President Park proposed in the Peru Summit that in order to develop economy of our country, we should eradicate the deep-rooted social reformation which hindered the economy. She mentioned that in order to achieve development of economy, we have to focus on reformation of social policy which envelops public, labor, financial and educational reformation. One of the main problem where there is clash between social and economic development is that even though these two factors have to go hand in hand simultaneously, it is very hard to manage because if you take an example of economic development of India in the late 2000’s. India expanded service sector drastically and helped economy by doubling the national average income by 7.5%. This economic development helped in social development of India by providing employment and boosted market flows, but it was not sufficient for them to eradicate poverty throughout the country because there was no proper maintenance and policies for public and finance. Therefore, in order to yield positive synergies between social and economic development, the government should create and follow up interrelated social policies that goes along with economic development.

 

When the economy is growing, the government should reform the economy together with renovating growth model towards higher quality, efficiency and competitiveness, which will be implemented comprehensively in all sectors and every field nationwide. Specifically they should concentrate reformation of economy in three important fields: public investment; financial market, and enterprises. Public investment helps in development of public infrastructure which improves living condition of society. Financial market investment creates opportunities for the nation to maximize stocks and international exchanges. Also, distributing the benefits to the companies can enable a nation to expand business globally and enhance smooth international trade.

 

Sustainable development in the perspective of harmonizing environment and society is very critical because it is connecting the current world and the future generation. Practically, it is hard to balance these two concepts because they contrast in some frameworks. For example, development of production technology such as genetically modified products and inorganic fertilizers solved scarcity of food for population growth, but it also cause deterioration of soil and water and air pollutions.   As we develop our standard of living by improving technology, it is necessary to take importance of saving environment and efficient management of scarce resources and it is possible only when we develop environmental-friendly or new technology that harmonizes balance between environment and society. The governments must practice environment-protected economic activities such as eco-tourism. Korea practices eco-tourism at Uponeup Wetland in Changnyeong (Gyeongsangnam-do Province), Junam Wetlands Park in Changwon (Gyeongsangnam-do Province), and Suncheonman Bay (Jeollanamdo-Province) which attracted many tourists in the past few years. Also, creation of various environment protection act according to development of technology and strict maintenance of waste management is required. The community must learn environmental ethics and conserve scarce resources efficiently in daily lives. The international enterprises must adopt sustainable technology such as systems analysis, environmental management, clean processes, green chemistry, and green engineering.

If we can achieve these reformation policies and maintain, positive synergies of societal, environmental and sustainable development will be harmonized.

 

Best,

Jaehun Kim

Minjoon Kim (not verified)

Dear Ms. Diana Alarcon,

I am honored to participate in this session, and I would like to address one of the important social development policies, energy cooperation policy, which can be considered essential for sustainability of the future society. I think it seems very natural for us to think about this issue as the demand for energy increases, there should be a policy on multilateral energy cooperation for global co-prosperity and development.

My idea is focused on suggesting an approach for managing the issue of energy security through a cooperative framework in Northeast Asia. Nowadays, energy is considered a highly technical issue that requires continual dialogue, information sharing, and coordination. However, I have found out there is no overall mechanism or framework such as IEA (International Energy Agency) that can respond to some of the challenges associated with risks to energy security across countries within this region.

So, the best way to change potential risks and challenges to a more reliable, safe, and affordable energy supply is to enhance cooperation within the region. I think that institutions play a critical role in promoting international and/or even regional cooperation under the condition that energy cooperation should be prioritized and targeted based on the needs of each country and effectiveness of implementation. To do so, the framework is useful to the extent that each policy option can be prioritized according to the objectives as well as relative benefits and costs, though the choice is left up to the policy makers themselves.

Comprehensive regional energy cooperation is not easy requiring strong will, leadership, and effort not only within each country but across the region. I understand that the geopolitical realities, however, make cross-border coordination in Northeast Asia (Korea, China and Japan) a difficult but, at the same time, it is important for them to realize that the future benefits from regional cooperation on energy security is also too large to just ignore for our future generation.

Best,

Minjoon Kim

MiseonKim (not verified)

Dear all,

      Before beginning  with my thought, I want to say that I am pleased to participate in third discussion. When I look into the problem, I realized that most of the global population has no access to comprehensive social protection. Social protection covers multiple dimentions of poverty, education, health care, and etc. They can be a powerful tool in this conflict against inequality and poverty. Social protection is able to play a significant role in creating more inclusive and sustainable development pathways. On the other hand, the importance of social protection has been recognized in full only recently.

            The post-2015 UN development agenda requires a new approach to national and international development. As social protection can play in social and economic development, the post-2015 UN development agenda will acknowledge the critical role extending adequate social protection's role in development and society. The debate needs a renewed and comprehensive focus on poverty, inequality, income distribution and so on. Sustainable social protection based on strong legal and regulatory frameworks should be an integral component of national development strategies to get inclusive, equitable sustainable development.

             Successes in expanding social protection increase the number of middle and low income countries which have shown that basic levels of social protection are affordable. During the present financial and economic crisis social protection systems have shown their potential to strengthen capacity of households as well as mitigate against the social and economic. It supports countries in their efforts to provide access to essential social services and social transfers. National social protection floors will help to prevent and reduce poverty and social exclusion, and will contribute to the social, economic and environmental dimensions of sustainable development. Moreover, several major international agancies, such as the EC(European Commision), the World Bank, and UNICEF have launched new social protection strategies. Yet, global policy challenge remains.

             As I mentioned at the beginning, most of the global population has no access to comprehensive social protection which enables people to cope with their life risks. This is a challenge that international community must appeal. Social protection should ensure that all people have access to essential goods and services, removing social and economic barriers to access This is an essential investment that contributes to economic growth. As we could see the multiple role of social protection, the post-2015 framework must contain an objective that ensures all people in development and society involved and have right to extend proper social protection.

Harrie Chung (not verified)

Dear all,

 

The concept of sustainable development consists of three essential parts, which are economic, environment, and social pillars. Each pillar possesses crucial role for the development of society; thus it is important to keep the pillars in well-balanced system for the enhancement of the sustainability. Due to the broad aspects of the pillars, each pillar is likely to be solved or improved by the efforts of one specific organization or one at a time. In addition, I think that in order to enhance the concept of social pillar, it is crucial to comprehend and expand the other pillars through connections among each other.

I believe that the most effective mechanism to strengthen social pillars of sustainable development is the government’s effort on constructing concrete and vivid framework that can apply to the social pillars. Since people crave for equality and are eager to sustain lives filled with tranquility and consensus in every field of the aspects of the lives, the government should come up with a harmonized unified method in designing the easy-accessible measures for the gathering of the people. It would be also beneficial to broaden the importance and need of the social to incorporate international dimensions so that the social policies can provide the basic term for social indicators in the social sustainability.

When establishing a suitable and coherent framework, the government or the global organization or institutes should strengthen policies so that they can easily reveal the designed framework for the participation and process. Lastly, they should consider the main obstacles that block from processing sustainable development so that they can find a way to prevent from further occurrence of the obstacles.

 

Sincerely,

 

Harrie Chung 

Ashwini Sathnur • Capacity Development Expert at United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) from India

In India, sustainable development refers to the Inclusive development policy agenda. This features public-private-partnerships to futher generate innovative technological/ non-technological/ scientific solutions. This also generates additional green jobs in the technology industry. Supply - oriented ICT devices are manufactured to boost the platform and increase the creation of ICT innovations. 

Priorities require to be assessed on socio-economic and socio-environmental policies to benefit the citizens of the country - by utilizing the mechanism of citizen engagement. This could be done by creating ICT tools for citizen engagement. And enabling the citizens to be heard by the decision-makers in the country.

Policy coordination could be the downward method of communication, where information flows from the government to the public-private-partnerships.

Dosse SOSSOUGA • Executive Director at UN SDGs NGO Major Group d'or Africa: Amis des Étrangers au Togo: ADET from Togo

Oui, c'est dans ce souci de renforcer l'engagement citoyen et la responsabilité, la transparence que l'ONG: ADET a prévu dans son programme le projet TIC pour les établissements secondaires au Togo:

Si nous trouvons de financement, tous les établissements secondaires au Togo seront dotés de cyber pour permettre aux élèves de se former à l' internet, ce qui facilitera le suivi et l'évolution d'autres projets sociaux ou autres à venir.

HaYoung Son (not verified)

Dear Diana Alarcon,

 

First of all, I feel happy and honored to participate in this worldwide e-discussion.

 

Like you mentioned, there are lots of ideas suggesting transformation to bring economic, social and environmental sustainability require actions in all countries, developed and developing countries alike. However, the real challenge is the translation of the global agenda to the specific context of each country. Sustainable development and SDG differs for resource rich countries, middle income countries, developed countries, and LDC (Least Developed Countries).

 

What do we mean by sustainable development? There are many ways we can define it, but in general it is development for human needs in the present without compromising the ability of the future generation. The most important key elements of sustainable development are quality of life, integrated decision making, and equity. Then what is SDGs (Sustainable Development Goal)? It is the 17 new universal set goals for 15 years from 2015 which is the expanded and continued version of MDG.

 

Every country has different level or condition in many areas such as social, environmental, economical...etc. In other words, to think in two big categories, developed and developing countries are mostly not in equal condition so they can’t have same priorities and sustainable development goals. Developing countries would mainly have goals for fundamental needs such as poverty, hunger, settlement, and so on. On the other hand, developed countries would mainly have goals for convenience, service, safety…etc.

 

For example in Mongolia which is a developing country has different goals and priorities with Korea which is a developed country. The fundamental needs aren’t fulfilled in Mongolia. There is poverty; there are begging young kids all over the street during the cold winter, there are homeless people so that they freeze to death due to extreme cold, there are poors who don’t even have 20cents to ride a bus and recently, Mongolia has requested IMF due to social and economic crisis. Also there aren’t developed in educational field so that there are lots of students who go abroad to study what they want. Their priority goal is to develop fundamental needs of the people and develop the resource rich lands that are left in the nature itself. In South Korea, on the other hand concentrates on people’s convenience rather than their needs. Gender equality has been rising, Conserve and sustainably use the oceans, seas and marine resources for sustainable development, Promote peaceful and inclusive societies for sustainable development, provide access to justice for all and build effective, accountable and inclusive institutions at all levels and so on.

 

Like the example of Mongolia and South Korea, there are huge differences between the developing and developed countries and further more rich countries, middle income countries, LDC and so forth.

 

 

Thank You

Dosse SOSSOUGA • Executive Director at UN SDGs NGO Major Group d'or Africa: Amis des Étrangers au Togo: ADET from Togo

Mr SUNY,

 Il est temps que les plus forts soutiennent les plus faibles. Dans les 17 objectifs, il y a 1 qui stipule la réduction des inégalités à l'intérieur et entre les nations. Cette vision ambitieuse est que les pays développés réduisent un peu leur train de vie en faveur des pays pauvres. Mais la condition, que les pays dévepoppés posent, est la bonne gestion des fonds de soutien des ODD. Il est inacceptable de dire que les pays développés connaissent moins comment les fonds alloués aux pays les moins développés sont gérés.Si ce n'est pas pour payer des armes que les pays développés ont fabriqué, ce serait des capitaux épargnés encore chez eux, alors que l' extrême pauvreté reigne dans ces pays où des guerres incessantes avec des pertes de vies humaines et des dégats matériels sans précédent sont enregistrés. Certes, les pays ne sont pas égaux, mais si les pays les moins avancés changent de mentalité, acceptent la transparence, évitent la corruption, acceptent les innovations, évitent les barbaries, acceptent la démocratie, le travail de groupe et inclusif, bref si ces pays veulent suivre "the road to dignity by 2030" du SG des Nations Unies, alors, le développement social sera progressive et mesurable à partir des indicateurs de dévelppement préétablis et adaptable à tous les pays.

Javiera Herrera (not verified)

La discusión que se genera hoy en día en torno a la Agenda de Desarrollo Post 2015 está en el centro de los debates respecto a cómo entendemos el desarrollo sostenible para los distintos países y comunidades del mundo. En los últimos quince años se han  logrado grandes avances en lo relativo a la superacion de la pobreza con la definición de los Objetivos de Desarrollo del Milenio (ODM) y la elaboración de estrategias nacionales transversales para su cumplimiento, permitiendo que los ODM fueran un importante paso hacia el desarrollo social a nivel mundial. No obstante, hoy es preciso reflexionar sobre los desafíos que persisten brindando una mirada de largo plazo a sus soluciones.

El paradigma que sostenía que todo desarrollo social era consecuencia necesaria del crecimiento económico ha sido superado y es hoy considerado como anacrónico para entender el concepto de desarrollo. Sabemos que el crecimiento de las economías medido en el PIB y desagregado a nivel individual por el PIB per cápita realmente es insuficiente para medir el bienestar individual de las personas.

El desarrollo sustentable como fue entendido en el Informe Bruntland supone justamente "satisfacer las necesidades de la presente generación sin comprometer la capacidad de las futuras generaciones para que satisfagan sus propias necesidades". En este sentido, el desarrollo solo podrá alcanzarse en la medida que existan ciertas condiciones básicas. La primera de ellas sin duda debe ser el respeto y resguardo a nuestro medio ambiente. Lamentablemente el ser humano es la única especie que sistemáticamente destruye el ecosistema que habita, las razones por las cuales son de múltiple naturaleza; corto placismo económico, transferencia de responsabilidades, desafección con el medio natural, etc. Sin embargo, nuestra propia existencia está condicionada a la preservación de un medio limpio y a la explotación sustentable de los recursos naturales. No habrá desarrollo social ni desarrollo sustentable que sea equitativo para todos si esta condición no se cumple.

Por otra parte, el crecimiento económico además de ser ecológicamente sustentable debe ser equitativo. La desigual distribución de la riqueza en el mundo se encuentra en el centro de los problemas sociales en los distintos países, esta situación además es conducente al descontento social, la desconfianza y deslegitimación de las instituciones políticas y económicas y la falta de cohesión social. Por esta razón no debe estar al margen de la nueva concepción de desarrollo social incorporada en la Agenda Post 2015. Esto a la vez se relaciona con la demanda creciente de fortalecer la inclusión social de todos los grupos, el respeto de los derechos humanos, protección de las minorías sexuales, raciales, étnicas y cualquier otro grupo minoritario. El mundo es un espacio de diversidad y el reconocimiento y respeto a esa diversidad es clave para favorecer el desarrollo inclusivo, el crecimiento con igualdad y el respeto a la dignidad intrínseca de las personas.

Desde luego, estos son sólo algunos de los aspectos necesarios para el desarrollo social verdadero, debiesen ser abordados para lograr evitar la conflictivida entre comunidades y al interior de las mismas comunidades. Si bien la pregunta del cómo siempre es lo más complejo de abordar, lo cierto es que las políticas públicas sugeridades desde organismos internacionales hacia los países  debiesen garantizar la incorporación de un enfoque participativo. La política de la imposición o el enfoque top-down debe ser complementada con una visión bottom-up en la construcción de políticas públicas, dándole mayor voz y participación a los stakeholders interesados en las distintas temáticas sociales como educación, salud, vivienda, desarrollo social, etc.

Deberíamos abogar por una mirada del desarrollo social que sea incluyente de manera que los lineamientos generales de la Agenda Post 2015 sean implementados exitosamente a nivel interno. Solo de esta manera lograremos evitar cometer los errores del pasado.

Hyunjee (not verified)

Dear Ms. Diana Alarcon,

 

It is an honor to participate in this e-discussion about social development and implementation of the Post-2015 Development Agenda as a college student of SUNY Korea.

 

Before going in depth about the Post-2015 Development Agenda, I believe it is important to analyze the core challenges of the Millennium Development Goals. After going through several MDGs reports from different countries, it was conspicuous that despite the improvement in various fields, goals were not met. Even though, extreme poverty was alleviated a bit, education and health related MDGs were not entirely met. According to the economic projections by the World Bank states that there are approximately 970 million people still living below $1.50.

 

 In low-income countries such as Bangladesh, Ethiopia, Haiti and Niger, there are several challenges that could have made a significant change to the result of the MDGs. Those challenges include the government helping to reduce rural poverty by making migration more convenient, increasing the scarce resource availability in both urban and rural areas, and strengthening basic infrastructure services to achieve MDGs. Access to health care services in the Sub-Saharan Africa remains to be one of the issues since developing countries are more focused on poverty and its challenges to raise more financial resources.

 

Green economy is an economy that aims to improve human well-being and social equity while trying to allocate ecological scarcities and to reduce environmental risks. In order to create a win-win situation in social and economic fields and promote green growth, green economy must be achieved. This can be done through Inclusive Development, which reduces poverty by creating opportunity, sharing benefits, and participating in decision-making. It goes hand in hand with SDG of gender equality, poverty, education, and employment. Therefore, Inclusive Development would help make this win-win situation.

 

Another way that this win-win situation could be achieved through is by creating green jobs for women and youth. According to the definition provided by the International Labour Organization(ILO), green jobs are “ the transformation of economies, enterprises, workplaces, and labour markets into a sustainable, low-carbon economy providing decent work.” United Nations Environment Programme(UNEP) defined green jobs as “work in agriculture, industry, services, and administration that contributes to preserving or restoring the quality of the environment.” Green jobs are essential in providing decent jobs, preserving the environment, advancing the economy, and promoting social equity. 

 

Promoting Inclusive Development and creating green jobs will both result positive synergies between social and economic, and social and environmental dimensions of sustainable development. Inclusive Development policies and programs are designed and implemented to create social safety nets and stimulate economic growth by providing opportunities. This will be able to be achieved through the stronger role of the government ensuring the availability and accessibility to scarce resources and the increase of the public participation.

 

Thank you,

Hyunjee Kim

Montserrat (not verified)

Respecto al cumplimiento eficaz de los Objetivos del Desarrollo del Milenio (ODM), podemos consensuar en que no se han cumplido a cabalidad, encontrándonos bastante lejos de la meta acordada el año 2000 por la comunidad internacional, por lo mismo, es que tan sólo hace unos meses, específicamente en septiembre de 2014 se acordó en la Asamblea General de Naciones Unidas los Objetivos del Desarrollo Sustentable (ODS), cuyo contenido es claramente similar a lo buscado 15 años atrás en los ODM.

Considero que el camino es extenso y pedregoso, sin embargo no por ello imposible. Si los estados comienzan a trabajar en cumplir estos objetivos estableciéndome metas específicas, claras y viables, se va a poder llegar al resultado buscado.

Es menester hacer el análisis de los errores cometidos y las falencias en la ejecución en el trabajo en la búsqueda del cumplimiento de los ODM, y tomar aquello como una oportunidad de aprendizaje para aplicarlo en función de lograr los ODS de aquí al 2030.

GEORGES RADJOU (not verified)

Friends,

a) Implementing social development and new foreign migrantswilling to settle away from their domestic countries. Maybe becausetheir situation is not better in their domestic countries that theyprefer to flock where the grass seems greener. I want to see thesocial development of Romanian peoples and children being boosted inorder to fulfill the Post 2015 Sustainable Development goal, and nochildren is left behind, because he or she is from a foreign origin

For example, France is notorious because lots of migrants want tolive in this country and it is also easy to integrate with adiscounted air ticket due to globalization, while in the pastintegration in a foreign was a real fight (and crossing wall andbarriers for several generations). In tat way one can pay respect anda tribute to the migrant African workers who are loosing their livesin the Mediterranean sea.

But,  I want to discuss about peoples who are suppose to be fromthe same cultures, and which was one major reason to make a EuropeanUnion.

b) Bulgarians and Romanians were already preparing themselvesto integrate the French soil before the effective date of integration- and enjoy the liberalization of the EU in the making - for betteror for worse.

Romanian (Roms) adults:

If these peoples are very friendly, and they games are amizingwith number of tricks to collect monies on people perception thatthey are disabled that they physical perfomance make them moresubjects of social arts or entertainement frameworks. This is incontrast with the French model based on working classes ''metro,boulot, dodo'' that obvioulsy they don not share with the majority ofthe population. But, their lifestyles are becoming less visible in recent time, because precarious life has developed rapidely in mostmodern nations (particularly the South of Europe, which social modelis contrasting with Northern Europe)- The same issue occurs betweenwestern Europe and Eastern Europe, and the extension andramifications of Western Europe and USA lifestyle in Eastern Europeand Central Asia.

c) Also, as one can discover through narrative storiesfrom columnists in the mediasome migrants are more integrated than others. In rare case,Romanians show that they are able to live in France with a decentlife to normal standard of what is a decent work in Paris (orFrance)...- So beware also, that UN claim quality that Cities areattracting 70% of the world populations by 2050, because it would notbe for an improvement of a well being, as mega poles are increasinglybecoming hetero-poles, with pockets of marginalized and organizedcrime groups a national state is loosing is traditional control onpeople behaviors, (outside the social development of freedom, whichcan be odd, when listening to political parties, when they shouldreturn to the state affairs, if I hear them the first, thing theywill make is to change the laws of predecessors, and So on).

Romanian (Roms or Roma) lifestyles is unchanged when they flock toFrance and there is an accumulation of facts that their are joiningthe domestic homelessness and marginals in Paris, which is adding toan increase vulnerable groups. The differences with poor domesticcitizens or workers they often, they do not seek to gain skills thatwill allow them to change their life, because they just have no timeto integrate, and nobody will worry about asking them while they arebegging, when the precarious life in on the increase -in link also,with more freedom, which is a way to remove the stakeholdersresponsibilities on their core actives of running a municipality.

d) Maybe the transition period does not allow them to adapt, asquickly as they would like. Otherwise they just need more supportsthan they cannot receive. They look isolated and always busy atbegging with a free hand or playing guitar. (do not speak french, donot behave like french peoples, live in slums...no descent jobs, playmusic, and live on people donations) and they are living on thereowns. However, I this life outdoors is better in France, that thesame standard in their domestic country. So, it is a shared concernbetween France and the Romania of Bulgaria to look at ''Roms'' or''Bulgaria'' social integration in a more energetic way in term ofstrategic integrations. If not, we are making the ground of tomorrowpoor, with population dynamic, increase migrations, lack of prospectfor job creation, lack of innovation, conservative thinking...and soon. Post 2015 SDG is a dignity road, and it should claim a newambition for all, and not always thinking business as usual.

This can explained why their numbers are increasing and they loveto stay in France (when they cannot go to England. England offers amore economic model, while France is a more social model from theRomanian and Bulgarian perspective, because these peoples are bornand low paid entrepreneur, which is more painful in France that inUK, with better incentives and flexibility for small entrepreneursand also because of the English language skills, while opposite inFrance the food is free, shelter is free, there a number of lots ofcharities. There are more association and solidarity economy anywherein Europe than in Paris for cloth, and as the recycling system inParis is very special, because it is organized in the street  in thedepository or in the pavement where the municipality will collectthem with a lorry. This allow them to traffic and transfers goods(cloths, domestic items: TV, bicycles,...) from Paris, to Romania orBulgaria, to families or Friends, which are without doubt a source ofprofit.)

e) Romanian (''Rom”) children

In those recent years, I have seen them flocking to France, beforeof after their legal integrations, most that are at risks are thechildren, because often, they are the subject or the object ofmendacity, everywhere where the national state do not exercise itseffective sovereignty. For example, in the streets or in publictransports. Modern life with globalization created a contraction ofthe police forces in the streets or in public transports, or since7-9/01/2015 and the terrorist attack in Paris, security guard eitherare not trained or find minor to pay attention to the children humanrights. As modern public transport is a complex business and everofficer or administrators are working at control room levels, thereis no more patrol (or rarely to check it customers are entitled totravel without fares or tickets, Romanians ("Rom) arechampioning the free transport in absence of physical presence of thepublic staffs, and they sing, or play guitars in the trains. Then,their children go through the public and ask for money or exactlybecome the money collectors, if customers want to give them a coin.This is sad, because no other children in France are working so youngor being beggars when you are a child, I suppose was outlaw inEurope.

f) It is important in implementing social development,to enroll these children in school and to pavethe way for these most vulnerable children in termof extra compensations for holidays at the seaside or in themountains, during the appropriate months of the year, within theseschool vacations. Also, actual integration is paramount and maybe itis claiming a different strategy (or no integration!) while beinglegal. 

g) The laicization concept is a bitdisplaced by the EU integration. A victim could recover a house,but not the loss child or the loss family member. Is not it, thereason why Armaniens today are fighting for? Pope François hascanonized the 1.5 million armenian victims of the genocide.

Victim but today with increase legal freedom, organizations wantto be assimilated. So, if would be a draw back for the socialintegration, if from today laic neutrality, there is an enforcementof a laic state- which is close to allow the enforcement ofpreference national? (I believe this would be discriminatory on thebasis on the common living in the EU).

h) Freedom and laic state: It is not the one I knew, in thepast. In fact, a laic state used to mean that a foreign children“assimilation'' (which was compulsory in the past, but which can beassimilated today as a crime against humanity. France JusticeMinister Mrs Taubira gained the vote against the slavery that occursin the past, and today France is the only or first country, which isconsidering by law that triangular African slavery was a crimeagainst humanity. However, no compensation has been made todescendants or children of the slaves.

Therefore thus, if France enforce the laic state and peoples hasto reject their cultural identity or their family bacground to beintegrated, it is a shame for the laic state (comparable to armemiencivilians looking for moral recognition, and it is also''psychological death'', comparable to peoples loosing lives of theirfamily members because the state will compensate the victims on thephysical prejudices (damages), but not on the moral basis.

However, my belief is as France accepted slavery as a crimeagainst humanity, trhe obsession to have enforcement of laicity, willnot occur at detriment of other cultural values, because of theEuropean and France multiculturalism from historical evidence.Schools can not teach today to schoolchildren our ''ancestors wereGaullois”, which was a virtual concept to build France nationalidentity. Now, France integration should be revisited and rethinkingthrough the lens of reality and social research and not reacting tosocial event and terrorism agenda. But, it will be a difficult issue,because as organizational behavior research showed, beliefs, aredifficult to change and the 1rst source of social conflicts.

So, accept that Social conflict is an engine of social developmentand not an engine of discrimination and legal enforcement.

In this process of laicization, which look to me abnormal, thereare of course loosers and winners. and it is always the same who arewinning Strange, in a democratic country, there is the rule of thealternance. For example, in the USA, there has been several timesmulticultural changes alternates. Tomorrow, serious politicalobservers expect to see USA being ran by Hispanic speaking people...Therefore thus, It is looking for me, extremely hard(and possibly unethical) from the view point of a child or his/herparents to force them to adopt the national language -maybe the childwill learn it at school-, Now, if considering several languages,...itis several time more complex. This situation should be forecast fromthe time countries were looking/deciding to make Europe, they did notseek to impose a European language, but allows several languages andbehaviors to coexist- Now we see different patterns and trends-Northern Europe with a common language (Scandinavian), SouthernEurope, with several language, and central Europe with severallanguages.

Conclusion:

i- In order to integrate the foreign migrant, there is no need fora laic state enforcement. It would be counter productive an unethicaland a social impoverishment on the viewpoint of the linguistic.Social development aim at creating well being and language skills areelements of the well being.

ii- Asking people in 21rst century to reject their culture for aforeign culture in order to be integrated is a non sense, on the viewpoint of individual freedoms, which is extremely radical and hard,for a child, which was not determined to be French and which isforced by the nature of law. It is not real the Europe, one shouldlove very much. Europe should be more multicultural and not forcingpeople to integrate to learn a specific language or culture. In fact,most of EU countries or region are aiming at decentralization throughthe regionalism and the re-territoriality.

iii- Also, with the development of Information CommunicationTechnologies (ICTs) and Management Information Systems (MIS) , andthe several UN agenda on World Information Societies (Tunis 2005,Geneva 2003), there is a need for better database. My viewpoint, alsogeography has changed, and the country border concepts are a nonesense. France is lucky to have from past history of kind and queens acoherent country model, because France in the past owned its economicdevelopment from the independence of its natural resources, whichwere in its own national soils. Today, France is a country 100%dependent on Foreign exchanges. The France geography is not limitedto the mountains and the rivers that made France. Citizens are makingexchanges worldwide with internet, blogs, social media, discountedair routes,...an affordable network of roads and railways connection,that is would be counterproductive, to  image France within thehexagon (as it was taught in the France laic state of the pastlooking at assimilating children from foreign migrations.)

France has much to gain in not enforcing a  (and rejecting othercultural values for the purpose of thje national integration, whichis already exited, with European multiculturalism, in which Francehas played an influential role. This social development is a newproceed, that is work in progress, and Post 2015 SDG should bringmore values in a social acceptance of France universal andmuticuluralism role in development based on a broad vision ofsociety, rather than a narrow one limited to the 550,000 squarekilometers and 65 million peoples.

iv-  Another point, which practice is allow to develop, while thelaw of protecting children is compulsory (not just a guideline likeJohn Ruggie guiding principles). A transport organization like SNCFor RATP and municipalities are using quality assurance for theirservices based on monitoring. For example, there is an announcementso that people do not smoke in public transports, do not leave theirluggage unattended, inform if there is suspected baggage in ahallway...So, if a citizen sees a strange object, they should notkeep it for themselves. Instead, they should report it to the policeor the transport Information desk office or the nearest. But, for''Rom'' children in France and particularly, Paris. There is not suchreporting behavior toward Rom children are allow to behave free, andbe beggars like their parent in the public transports, and nobody whodare to tell them this is an outrage to the children Human rights. Ihave seen this situation at the level of France ''soup popularize''too. The Catholic churches are serving food during the winter periodfor the homeless, and I was surprised to see that children wherecoming in the cold winter, at the food for homeless parties duringthe evening. While France enjoyed a reputation for a social model,looking at children healthcare and needs. It is an outrageous to thechildren rights to tolerate delivery soups to children in thestreets.

In fact, it is a charitable behavior to make free donation, and toreplace the state and the municipality social services, but there areexperts (like UNICEF, FAO) that should be involved in protectingchildren instead of the catholic churches, which has not mean to makesocial contributions or charities or associations (like Couchette, orrestaurant of the heart in Paris), because often these foods are of(i) poor qualities, (ii) not cooked, (iii) adults and children havethe same dietary requirements, often children of ''Rom'' are obese(fat) because they foods are very sweet. When peoples see them theygive them lots of chocolate, soft drinks, breads,...an they eat thesame foods as adults, which is not compensating their special needsfor growing their muscles, bones, nerves...So, this kind of diets inthe food stores for homeless may jeopardize the child development andcreate a laziness to go to school and study.

So, despite of France loving children this practice of Souppopularize behind the church during the 4 months of the winter shouldbe banned, and Families of Romanians should have an incentives tojoin school services or municipality services for the healthcare andfood care of their small children, also preventing parents to beg infront of most shops (Carrefour, Dia,...) also banks and post officeswhere the parents spent hours and day in the streets seating on thepavements or under a tree, or against a wall begging either it issunny or it is raining. I have not seen this behavior anywhereabroad. Therefore it is alarming to see this social development ofRomanians (“Roms”), in France) 

as long as they are not a nuisance for the passengers. So, beggingcan become/is a normal practice, where the child is a hook forgetting money. Often, who is most to give a penalty, it is peoplesand passengers themselves, because they allow these marginal singersto travel with them while they are entertained for little fees. Ithink this is not proper behavior and it is a silent discriminationand also, if passengers want entertainment during their journey, theyshould not make Romanians (and Rom children outlaw on the view pointof the Children Human rights) instead, The public transport has hugeassets and profits. Maybe, the public transport, should equip also,the infrastructure with radio or music, or translation service in thecarriages of the trains. So, what can be investigated for internetbroad band and dissemination of 3G or 4G broadband for 5 G forinterpenetration of internet, or which is existing also, in goodnumber of places with the CCTV cameras to protect civilians, shouldalso be implemented with a radio system so passengers can listen tonews, (to top up messages and warning given by the transport serviceto increase the quality of the service. My viewpoint having marginalchildren with I supposed their parents begging in the transportsystem is part also the quality assurance of the service and a socialdevelopment for tomorrow future of Romanian children in Paris. In mytime, which is not so far, children that was not look by theirparents would be put in a boarding school, or responsible members ofthe family so far, would look at their nephew or niece. Why is thereso much resistance to change the behavior of children, that arepreparing and leaving on a terrain of future marginals, and notresponsible peoples willing to integrate. also, EU should be moreeffective, at building a real European citizenship that making lawswhich are debatable, permissive than foreigners can easily contournedue to lack of transparencies, EU has became a big machine, that isloosing its uncontrollably.

Thanks

 

María Angélica Masia (not verified)

Antes de comenzar, me gustaría saludar a todos los participantes y agradecer la oportunidad que otorga este espacio para comentar sobre la Agenda post-2015.

El Desarrollo Sostenible implica conciliar el desarrollo económico con el desarrollo social. Es de consenso mundial que las Cumbres, Declaraciones e instrumentos internacionales que tratan estos temas son sólo el marco básico para la promoción del desarrollo. Acorde a lo anterior, vemos la necesidad de avanzar en un compromiso mayor, un compromiso que involucre tanto al sector público como al sector privado. Para lograr la sinergia entre el desarrollo económico el desarrollo medioambiental y el desarrollo social, es necesaria la participación de todos y no sólo de los Estados o sector público. Por lo anterior, es necesario incorporar al sector privado en el objetivo del Desarrollo Sostenible. Es necesario que tanto el mercado como el estado se organicen para desarrollar e implementar un proyecto de Desarrollo, que tenga un tono de justicia social, “el Estado y el Mercado al servicio del ciudadano”, para constituir sociedades más justas. La relevancia de trabajar integradamente en los distintos sectores en pro de alcanzar objetivos comunes, es un gran desafío pero también una gran oportunidad alcanzar un mayor crecimiento y reducir los índices de pobreza. La RSE (Responsabilidad Social Empresarial) se presenta como un instrumento, en donde se materializa un cambio cultural, el cual ofrece una alternativa de gestión sostenible. Así el sector empresarial debe reconocer su rol e involucrarse como aliado en la lucha contra las desigualdades y la pobreza. Es más, en los últimos años, los tradicionales actores de la cooperación internacional para el desarrollo han apostado por implicar a las empresas en sus acciones. El objetivo es crear sinergias que hagan acciones de desarrollo más efectivas. La Globalización, la promoción de un desarrollo sostenible, son algunos de los factores que han hecho que las empresas, al igual que el resto de sectores de la sociedad, empiecen a tomar conciencia de que su propia actividad conlleva una responsabilidad que deben asumir, dando paso a la RSE, como una herramienta clave en el Desarrollo. La RSE tiene un importante potencial como instrumento para acercar a la empresa a los problemas en el desarrollo en todas sus dimensiones.

La empresa tiene que entenderse como la manera en que el capital contribuye al crecimiento y a la productividad, pero también  al bien común y a un estándar ético en la sociedad.  Para ello es necesario fomentar la innovación, la inversión  y el emprendimiento productivo con responsabilidad social y medioambiental dentro y fuera de la empresa.  

 

Jacqueline Rodríguez Vega (not verified)

Hola a todos, nuevamente.En esta oportunidad me gustaría agregar al debate una perspectiva que, desde Chile, es bastante relevante. Este país, aún en la vía hacia el desarrollo, requiere desarrollar nuevas fuentes de energías que sustenten el progreso económico y, con ello, el desarrollo social.En este sentido, me gustaría apuntar hacia la educación en estas temáticas. Si bien las energías limpias y energías renovables han sido incorporadas en el currículum escolar, la educación en este ámbito en Chile debería ser fortalecida. Y quizás, convertirse en un ejemplo a seguir en el mundo.Como principio de derecho internacional se ha reconocido el derecho que tienen los Estados al desarrollo, estableciéndose responsabilidades diferenciadas respecto a aquellos países que ya han alcanzado el desarrollo. En el caso de Chile debemos consolidar un enfoque energético que suponga un camino sostenido hacia el progreso, pero comprometiéndonos con el cuidado del Medio Ambiente. Un aspecto fundamental para las generaciones actuales y futuras.Siguiendo con el punto de la educación en Chile, desde la esfera privada se han impulsado talleres escolares con el objetivo de inculcar en los estudiantes la importancia de energías renovables, como la energía solar. Un ejemplo de estas iniciativas desde el mundo privado en el siguiente link http://www.fundaciontelefonica.cl/prensa/noticias/amplia-noticia/?idNot… educación debe ser un pilar en este ámbito y en la Agenta Post-2015, como herramienta que permita a las futuras generaciones tener conciencia sobre la importancia del desarrollo sustentable, como derecho humano fundamental. Enfatizo entonces, en la creación de aplicaciones prácticas de generación de energía para trabajar con las niñas y niños.

Paula Echavarría (not verified)

Estimada Jacqueline, 

Concuerdo contigo respecto a la importancia de la educación. Desde mi punto de vista, la considero como el elemento más básico para generar conciencia social sobre energías renovables, y especialmente las muchas veces nombradas y pocas veces estudiadas energías renovables no convencionales -ERNC- del mismo modo concuerdo de que la educación social respecto a este tema se debe orientar a niños y niñas para que de esta forma se pueda cambiar en un futuro próximo la importancia que se le da en países que aun estan en desarrollo a las temáticas energéticas con un enfoque sustentable. No obstante, aunque esta acción es imprescindible, considero que se debe acompañar de otras iniciativas que apunten a impulsar con mayor énfasis el estudio de las ERNC a nivel universitario. De esta forma, el foro de discusión que proporciona la agenda post-2015 puede llevar a países como el nuestro a buscar alianzas educacionales en la materia con países con los que este tema ya se encuentra instalado como una prioridad. Recordando una vez más la importancia del diálogo y la necesidad de incluir a todos los actores que pueden aportar a esta discusión, incluyendo por su puesto a los centros de estudio, especialmente las universidades para ayudar a desarrollar e implementar estas energías en el país, contribuyendo de esta forma a que Chile cumpla con sus compromisos internacionales.

Saludos, Paula.     

Jacqueline Rodríguez Vega (not verified)

Estimada Paula,

Concuerdo con tu punto de vista absolutamente. La incorporación de estas temáticas al ámbito universitario y a la investigación debe ser una prioridad, especialmente impulsada desde la esfera pública.

La cooperación internacional también debe fortalecerse y encontrar vías para establecer alianzas con países desarrollados y que tengan liderazgo en la generación de este tipo de tecnologías, así como con otros Estados que tengan una posición similar a la de Chile. La cooperación en estas materias debe ser impulsada y mantenida como principio, tal como lo establece el derecho internacional del Medio Ambiente. 

Saludos.

Paula Echavarría (not verified)

Estimada Jacqueline, 

Concuerdo contigo respecto a la importancia de la educación. Desde mi punto de vista, la considero como el elemento más básico para generar conciencia social sobre energías renovables, y especialmente las muchas veces nombradas y pocas veces estudiadas energías renovables no convencionales -ERNC- del mismo modo concuerdo de que la educación social respecto a este tema se debe orientar a niños y niñas para que de esta forma se pueda cambiar en un futuro próximo la importancia que se le da en países que aun estan en desarrollo a las temáticas energéticas con un enfoque sustentable. No obstante, aunque esta acción es imprescindible, considero que se debe acompañar de otras iniciativas que apunten a impulsar con mayor énfasis el estudio de las ERNC a nivel universitario. De esta forma, el foro de discusión que proporciona la agenda post-2015 puede llevar a países como el nuestro a buscar alianzas educacionales en la materia con países con los que este tema ya se encuentra instalado como una prioridad. Recordando una vez más la importancia del diálogo y la necesidad de incluir a todos los actores que pueden aportar a esta discusión, incluyendo por su puesto a los centros de estudio, especialmente las universidades para ayudar a desarrollar e implementar estas energías en el país, contribuyendo de esta forma a que Chile cumpla con sus compromisos internacionales.

Saludos, Paula.     

Montserrat (not verified)

Respecto al Objetivo del Desarrollo del Milenio (ODM) número 7 “garantizar la sostenibilidad del medio ambiente”, si bien se ha buscado en múltiples conferencias, manifestaciones o discursos emotivos, lograr generar en la comunidad internacional una verdadera conciencia ambiental, -y en definitiva transmitir el mensaje que el daño al medio ambiente, afecta directa e irreversiblemente a los seres humanos como especie-  aún no se ha conseguido tener un acuerdo internacional de carácter vinculante, cuyo cumplimiento sea efectivamente exigible y que establezca la obligación no tan solo de estabilizar las concentraciones de gases de efecto invernadero en la atmósfera, sino reducir las emisiones de los mismos a niveles mínimos necesarios.

Luego de la manifestación global llevada a cabo por miles de ciudadanos alrededor del globo el  pasado domingo 21 de septiembre de 2014, donde se pedía  a los líderes mundiales lograr un acuerdo vinculante respecto al clima, la idea es que en la Conferencia de Partes  sobre el Cambio Climático (COP21), a realizarse a fines de este año en París, se logre efectivamente un acuerdo que otorgue reales garantías medioambientales. 

María Angélica Masia (not verified)

Otra reflexión, dice relación con que la comunidad internacional ha dado cuenta de la existencia de compromisos que no se pueden alcanzar por sí mismos, sino que requieren la creación de un entorno propicio para poder perseguirlos de manera simultánea. Un ejemplo de lo anterior, es la erradicación de la pobreza, el empleo (pleno, productivo y decente) y la integración social. Por lo anterior, es un desafío pendiente trabajar mancomunadamente en los referidos compromisos, para poder alcanzar avances. A su vez, se reconoce la necesidad de incorporar al desarrollo sostenible en todos los niveles, integrándolo en los diferentes aspectos (económicos, sociales y ambientales). Por otra parte observamos la necesidad imperiosa por parte de los gobiernos y de la comunidad internacional en general, de adoptar firmemente la determinación de hacer frente a las grandes amenazas actuales. Se reconocen como parte de éstas a la pobreza extrema y a la seguridad alimentaria. Se advierte que para lograr el desarrollo, es necesaria la implementación de medidas más globales y enérgicas.Una tónica constante al minuto de analizar los avances de la agenda previa al 2015, dice relación con progresos desiguales y la falta de equilibrios. En el caso de la pobreza, la disparidad en el acceso de los servicios básicos, el aumento de la desigualdad, la falta de recursos, el desarrollo económico insuficiente, la deficiencia en sistemas institucionales y de gestión, los cambios demográficos, entre otros, son factores que imposibilitan el Desarrollo. En el caso del empleo, la inseguridad laboral fomentada por la subcontratación, el acceso restringido de las mujeres a los mercados laborales, salarios bajos y una protección social mínima, permean la obtención del Pleno Empleo. En cuanto a la Integración Social, si bien los países han efectuado grandes esfuerzos a nivel local para lograr la referida integración, ya sea mediante la creación de normativa, mecanismos institucionales o fortalecimiento del diálogo y la participación ciudadana, la falta de solución a problemas de educación, pobreza, desempleo, falta de oportunidades, siguen provocando no solo desigualdad sino exclusión y marginación. Para avanzar en los nuevos desafíos se requiere acciones que abarquen en conjunto a todas las dimensiones del desarrollo sostenible que no sean trabajadas por separado.

Andrea Young (not verified)

I agree with the reviews on the necessary synergy between social policies (social inclusion) and the wealth of production systems. It is necessary to create sources of accessible resources for society (as a whole) through responsible production that means to exist effectively rather than the increase (or continuity) of speculation. This will only aggravate the climate situation and economic losses. According Harvey (2005), one of the hallmarks of the neoliberal project would be private and processing assets (natural resources) yet considered public, in order to open the accumulation of fields before excluded from the calculation of profitability. Thus every kind of public utility (water, telecommunications, transport, energy) and social benefits (housing, education, health care, pensions), would be privatized in some way or to some degree throughout the capitalist world. The passage of common property rights, obtained through years of hard class struggle (state law to retirement, social well-being, a national health system) to the private domain has been one of dispossession of political, often imposed, contrary to the broad will of the people. These processes are equivalent to the transfer of assets from the public domain and popular areas to private and class privilege. It seems that will not possible to live like that any more, even for the market it will be difficult. 

Andrea Young (not verified)

Yes, I agree...."Nothing is called a Free Lunch." And there are different economic situations around the world. It is just important to beware of unrealistic values. I agree.... in this process ethic is essential.  Thank you for these different perspectives of the problem.

Fernanda (not verified)

Desde una perspectiva práctica, considero que los avances que se han alcanzado a partir de los Objetivos de Desarrollo del Milenio establecidos en 2000 han sido importantes, sin embargo no se han logrado por completo, lo que me hace preguntarme respecto la verdadera eficacia del establecimiento de este tipo de metas de carácter internacional. Sin duda el problema recae en que este tipo de declaraciones son simplemente eso, declaraciones de buenas  intenciones por parte de los estados, quienes son los actores principales a la hora de tomar decisiones encaminadas al logro de los objetivos. Sin duda la ausencia de un carácter vinculante produce incertidumbre respecto a los verdaderos esfuerzos que puedan realizar los estados encaminados a la consecución de estas metas, que en el caso de aquellas relativas a la protección del medio ambiente o incluso al desarrollo sostenible plantean desafíos a las formas de crecimiento tradicionales. Sin embargo, esta falta de certeza  es una característica común en toda temática que busque efectos concretos a nivel internacional.

Por el contrario, considero que una alternativa que sea realmente concreta y por tanto radical no es posible sin caer en la violación de las soberanías de los estados. Por ello a pesar de mis dudas respecto al alcance absoluto de estos objetivos, pienso que hoy en día, es el mecanismo adecuado para generar una influencia progresiva en los estados y con ello generar presión sobre aquellos que no han estado tan comprometidos con estas medidas, lo que en definitiva constituirá una costumbre que ha de esperarse establezca márgenes infranqueables con respecto a la protección de los ecosistemas en un futuro cercano. En este sentido el escenario multilateral adquiere una relevancia que no ha escatimado esfuerzos, que deben mantenerse y perfeccionarse en esta línea. 

KAYUMBA OMAR ARTHUR (not verified)

Verry good debate.

iddi dhidha (not verified)

Dear Diana and Colleages,

I want to first and foremost thank the pioneers of this plat form for giving all of a platform to raise partinent concerns and propose policy and other reforms that would endavor to make the world a better place for people of all.

As we seek to reduce poverty and inequalities in the world, we should view this from a human rights perspective and as such we should always endavour to respect,promote and fulfill these right. I believe that in doing so, we will appreciate the need to come up with affirmative action measurers such as social security mechanisms to breach the gap between the haves and have nots. In my understanding and from experience, it is the poverty of rights that indeed breed economic poverty.

If we intergrate human rights principles in our daily lives, i then believe that we will be able to achieve sustainable development as we will take into account the interests of future generations and thus exploit the finite resources sustainably

 

Pascal BYAMUNGU BAHATI (not verified)

Le future d'une Nation répose dans les mains de la jeunesse. Pour tout développement d'un Etat, la jeunesse a le devoire d'y apporter sa pière. Malheureusement  celà semble ne pas interesser certaines personnes qui semblent ignorer l'existance de la jeunesse et sa capacité. Dans certain pays, c'est sont les jeunes qui contribuent plus sur le développement de leur Etat car ces dernier viennent fraichement des institutions universitaires et avec des nouvelles conaisssances qui projectent vers un avenir meilleur. Leur expertise et leur talent vont constituer une force motrice pour le développement de leurs communautés en particulier et de leur nation en général. Mais ce là est le contraire dans certains pays. Comme par exemple dans mon cher pays la République Démocratique du Conogo que j'aime bien, les jeuns n'ont pas un accès facile à l'emploie. Dans des institutions publiques, on y rencontre des viellards même de plus de 70ans d'âges, déjà fatigués et utilisent des anciennes connaissances et rien de nouveau. Avec ce systhème, quand est-ce que ces institutions pourront innover? Pour  acceder à l'emploie, ont propose une expérience proffessionelle de 3 à 5 ans dans le domaine. Quand est-ce que ce jeune qui vient fraichement de l'Université pourra avoir cette expérience proffessionelle de 3 à 5 ans? Comment ces institutions pourront bénéficier des nouvelles connaissances pour un bon développement? Et dans ce sens, on se rends compte que ces sont les employeur qui décrochent toujours de l'emploie et les chaumeurs (jeunes) s'occupent d'eux même. Alors que les jeunes ont des têtes encore bien faites. Voilà que pour un meilleur développement, nous devons éviter la routine. La routine ne permet jamais un développement. Il faut qu'il y ait un élément nouveau, une nouvelle connaissance dans une institution publique ou privée pour permettre une bon développement. La jeunesse constitue un avenir meilleur d'une Nation car elle a une nouvelle conaissance et une expertise dans tel ou tel autre domaine.

Garba Sule (not verified)

       Is a previllage being a member of the team work. poverty will can not be eradicated but can be reduce to a minimum level if elected leaders, traditional and religious leader remove greed and despiration to be name among the wealthiess people. 

     Poverty is mainly lack of necessity of life like free health care, school, acceptable drinking water, cheap foods. Nigeria poverty can be reduce if allocation of federal, states and local government are utilize properly and adequately . Youth are meant to serve the nation with their strenght and not to be use against the peace of the nation due poverty. The money use to employ them as thugs can be use to set them up with good business.                

Jeremiah Panshak Kassem (not verified)

Great meeting  you and wonderful comments,hope to learn more from you sir

Dosse SOSSOUGA • Executive Director at UN SDGs NGO Major Group d'or Africa: Amis des Étrangers au Togo: ADET from Togo

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csocd54 Moderator (not verified)

Click here to view summary of the E-dialogue Thank you for your participation in a very insightful e-Dialogue on "Rethinking and Strengthening Social Development in the Contemporary World" and the post-2015 agenda. In our e-Dialogue, we have seen many comments related to education, health, employment, poverty reduction, social protection, social transfer programmes, innovation, information and communication technologies, water, sanitation, youth, gender, older persons, persons with disabilities and indigenous people. If the main feature of the post-2015 development agenda is to take a holistic and integrated approach to address complex and inter-related global challenges, there is a need for a fundamental shift in policy approach, institutional mechanisms, and above all the mind sets of policy-makers. As we look towards the SDGs, we also need to ensure that we are engaging all sectors as well as all stakeholders. We must promote a holistic approach which would allow breaking down silos and design policies and programmes in a way that “the whole is larger than the sums of the parts". And lastly, in order to make social progress and improve the quality of life for all people to live with dignity, we need a more coherent overarching social policy framework under which each policy is implemented to achieve common social development objectives. Once again, we would thank all of you for valuable contributions to this lively and informative e-Dialogue. We hope you will continue to give further thought on the topics and questions raised during this dialogue in the months leading up to September and the launch of the Post-2015 development agenda (SDGs).

Dosse SOSSOUGA • Executive Director at UN SDGs NGO Major Group d'or Africa: Amis des Étrangers au Togo: ADET from Togo

Thank you for the feedback.

Jeremiah Panshak Kassem (not verified)

Here in the Northern Nigeria government those not have goals or priority set for their operation which is a major problem to implement projects that will meet community need. W ith the almost nothing the government is doing the privite sector are not trying in their own part, you hardly see any private agency CSR Projects here in the community. If the government could prioritize it project and challenge the private sector thier will be great improvement.

Garba Sule (not verified)

Why the are no CSR project in Nigeria is because the private sectors uses some money meant for the projects to bribe to official and the remaining fund are share among top private sector management. With devoted and sincere Government CSR projects will be check mated for proper implementation with zero toleranceSent from my BlackBerry® smartphone, powered by EasyblazeFrom: notification@unteamworks.orgDate: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:15:31 +0000To: <garbasule67@yahoo.com>ReplyTo: comment@unteamworks.orgSubject: [Teamworks] Jeremiah Panshak Kassem Social Entrepreneur and Youth development worker from Nigeria commented on the Discussion "Week 3 (20 -24 April): Social development and implementation of the post-2015 development agenda "

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